Talk:Rentenmark

Literally
How is Rentenmark "literally, Debt Security Mark" as claimed in the article? AFAIK German Renten (or Rente) does not mean "debt security". If anything, it means "pension", and comes from the name of the issuing bank (Rentenbank). --Jmk (talk) 15:48, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Rentes have been issued for centuries in Europe. They are perpetual state-issued debts. In the UK, they are called Consols (Consolidated securities, issued from 1751). In France they were particularly common, and served the function of a pension for those who purchased them. They still exist in various forms (eg "rente viagère" or "rente de mortalité"). It was the beneficieries of this type of instrument Keynes referred to in his claim to bring the "euthanasia of the rentier". In German, "pension" is a very good translation, because pension is an agreement to pay a regular sum to the holder in perpetuity. A pension *is* a debt security. Modern pensions are variants of the rentes which lapse on the death of the beneficiary, and may be index-linked. 212.194.48.112 (talk) 18:49, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

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