Talk:Republic of Taiwan/Archive 1

Prologue
I think the current name change movement seeks to change ROC to simply "Taiwan" (&#33274;&#28771;&#22283;) instead of the "Republic of Taiwan" (&#33274;&#28771;&#20849;&#21644;&#22283;). --Jiang 21:27, 16 Nov 2003 (UTC)


 * Not sure about that, you can ask some people who support Taiwan independence. --Samuel 02:58, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Two years ago, the dpp website stated that its goal was to created an indpendent "Republic of Taiwan." Now the phrase doesn't show up:--Jiang


 * Well, I'm sure another independencist party will turn up sooner or later. Maybe a split. --Menchi 05:15, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)


 * I doubt that another major party advocating independence will spring up. The DPP's goals have not changed; they have simply been required by political expediency to soften their rhetoric since Chen Shui-bian was elected President. After all, if they continued to proclaim loudly their goals, that would lead to a serious deterioration in relations with the PRC. Also, next year is election year, and the DPP needs to woo moderate voters as well as the voters who strongly support independence. --Lowellian 06:11, Nov 21, 2003 (UTC)

On observing the past congress election, I would concur that the chance of starting a third (also competitive), pro-independence party is rather slight, in a different way yet. Some accused that DPP's campaign strategy of moving further toward pro-independence failed to take the majority in congress. But in the end, there was practically no lost in seats. After all, it can be justified by a strategic move to compress the scope of its "brother" party as they phrased with the forethought that winning even-handed voters would be implausible. As an amazingly agile competitor, DPP in control of the whole thing will exclude any other force that might complicate the game and jeopardize its "bargaining power". Politics has been running for decades in Taiwan. Clearly, its players are pragmatic survivors. --Elsen 19:43, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)

Section removed (reaosn unknown)
An anon editor removed the [Proposed State: Republic of Taiwan ] section without explanation.


 * It's vandalism. restoring --Jiang 22:31, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

General comment
This article needs to talk about the ROT rather than meander aimlessly about the pros and cons of Taiwan independence, which would be redundant. A-giau 04:28, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

DPP advocates Taiwan independence ?
DPP adopted a resolution titled 'Resolution on Taiwan's future' in 1999. It said that Taiwan is already an independent state, its present official name is Republic of China. According to this resolution, DPP already renounced Taiwan independence in 1999. Althought its charter still containes a provision for creation of a Republic of Taiwan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.148.229.221 (talk) 13:24, 6 March 2005 (UTC)

Increasing supporters?
68.228.83.107 modified (22:03, 16 September 2005) that the Republic of Taiwan is a goal of increasing supporters. Does that mean "a goal of an increasing number of supporters", "a goal of increasing the number of supporters", or is either definite? TransUtopian 04:53, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Strange POV
"Initially, the Taiwanese Independence movement began as an attempt to overthrow the Republic of China government and replace it with a native Republic of Taiwan government. This was because the ruling party of ROC, the Kuomintang, was at first consisted essentially of mainland Chinese who fled to Taiwan at the end of the civil war in 1949." Supporters say its due to the KMT repression of the local populace. Can anyone find evidence it was purely a race issue that comes from a reliable source? Whats the agenda of the person who wrote this stuff? --72.229.114.117 05:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

''However, as economic successes overshadowed political concerns, and with the mainland Chinese gradually blending with the Taiwanese locals, the general population became more and more receptive towards the "alien" government. The impressively rapid process of democratization in the late 1980s and early 1990s by and large ended as the Taiwanese localization movement."'' This last sentence is unfounded. That isn't the case at all. Just two years ago Lee Tung Hui unveiled proposed flags for a new Taiwan Republic and last week talk of such was still on the news shows. Who wrote this stuff? --72.229.114.117 05:33, 3 May 2007 (UTC)