Talk:Respiratory arrest

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 18 November 2019 and 14 December 2019. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): JoshuaMS4. Peer reviewers: RedStorm1.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 08:05, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Work Plan Update
--JoshuaMS4 (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Have so far primarily focused on expanding the causes section with a small addition/reworking to the intro in differentiating respiratory failure from arrest
 * Have added image to article from WikiMedia Commons
 * Have avoided medical jargon and added references with additional information have added to article
 * Have utilized medical textbooks from Clinical Key as well as a systematic review article on head and neck trauma
 * Plan to prioritize expanding treatment section and utilize published clinical guidelines on pulmonary resuscitation
 * Plan to add additional neurological causes of respiratory arrest
 * Plan to expand on signs, symptoms, and diagnosis sections as well

Peer Review for MUSC WikiProject Medicine

1. Is everything in the article relevant to the article topic? Is there anything that distracted you?

In general, this is very well written, concise, and understandable with minimal jargon. Perhaps one more review through to remove remaining jargon (e.g., in Signs and Symptoms section, changing wording of "subtle imbalance in patient response"--what is "patient response?" In Upper Airway Obstruction section, what is "pharyngolaryngeal tracheal inflammation?"), but other than that, the writers do a great job of making this article accessible to non-medical readers.

The Impending Respiratory Arrest section was a bit distracting as it could be expanded and contained some grammatical/spelling errors.

2. Is the article neutral? Are there any claims, or frames, that appear heavily biased toward a particular position?

In general, this article seems neutral and balanced with minimal bias, if any. References are drawn from diverse sources and represent multiple, converging viewpoints.

3. Are there viewpoints that are overrepresented, or underrepresented?

No.

3. Check the citations. Do the links work? Does the source support the claims in the article?

Yes.

4. Is each fact supported by an appropriate, reliable reference? Where does the information come from? Are these neutral sources? If biased, is that bias noted?

Facts are supported and generally by highly reliable and up-to-date sources, such as textbooks or review articles. However, there are a few sources that are from older articles (e.g., one from 1988). Although they do support the information included in the article, I would recommend that writers use extra care and scrutiny in evaluating the quality of this article before using it if they have not already done so. In addition, a few of the web sites listed were from web sites written for patients and not for healthcare providers. While the information in these sources may be correct, it may not include detailed enough information to be used as a source itself--these articles are themselves the ones we are attempting to write as medical professionals for non-medical personnel and this may not be as effective as utilizing more detailed and perhaps reliable sources from which to draw information for this Wikipedia article.

In addition, while the writers did an excellent job of adding accurate, understandable information to this article, more sources overall could be used. I assume this is because the article itself did not contain much content before this course began. If this is the case, then the writers have done a great job since then of adding more sources but need to continue to add references in order to further diversify the article, particularly in the diagnosis and treatment sections.

5. Is any information out of date? Is anything missing that should be added?

See above--nothing out-of-date was used, but perhaps some of the information in the older articles included was out-of-date. While this is probably unavoidable, writers should take care to ensure that none of the out-of-date information is included in the Wikipedia article.

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This article was part of an 'assignment' from Saint Louis University in Spring 2016 (see  'Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/Saint_Louis_University/SLU_Biology_4970_(Spring_2016)' for more details). .

Work Plan
Hi, I am a medical student who will be taking part in WikiProject Medicine and contributing to the article.
 * I will prioritize expanding the on the definition, signs & symptoms, causes, and diagnosis of respiratory arrest
 * I believe the article could benefit from additional medical references, therefore I will cite those with the information I add
 * The Treatment section is listed as incomplete, so I will attempt to expand on this section
 * I plan to use Pub-Med to find systematic reviews on the subject, specifically on potential complications of respiratory arrest and underlying brain pathophysiology
 * I plan to use clinical textbooks via Access Medicine and Clinical Key to gather information on the definition, signs & symptoms, causes, and diagnosis of respiratory arrest
 * I plan to use published guidelines for treatment via government sources and the American Heart Association
 * I will decide what particular signs, symptoms, diagnostic, and treatment information to include or exclude based on relevance to the topic as to give a solid level of detail but not delve too far into any one subsection of respiratory arrest. For example, some information related to respiratory arrest may be valid but further explained in a stand-alone article on that particular subject. I plan to add links to these separate Wikipedia articles as needed
 * I will be looking closely at what has been written so far as to not add redundant information
 * I will avoid medical jargon and ensure that the information is easily readable and understandable to the general public, including having individuals who are not in the medical field proofread my work

--JoshuaMS4 (talk) 20:30, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan! --Emilybrennan (talk) 13:39, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

note
What about Apnea ? not much difference, I would say... -- Robodoc.at 22:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Artié coronary
Anybody have any idea what this is? Google has nothing on it other than wikipedia mirrors, and I've never heard of it. --John24601 (talk) 22:51, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Celebrity Deaths
New to wikipedia. How should Steve Jobs be referenced? Should it be removed?[Macrumors Article — Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by Stoidi pukeaw (talk • contribs) 20:44, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Distinguish from apnea
Cardiac arrest does not solely include asystole; it also includes conditions such as ventricular fibrillation.

Is respiratory arrest defined analogously, such that it is not limited to apnea and instead also includes severe bradypnea or hypopnea that is insufficient to sustain life? The word "effectively" in the lede ("failure of the lungs to function effectively") seems to imply so, but I think this could be clarified further. How? --SoledadKabocha (talk) 07:38, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Suggestions for improving respiratory arrest
Hi, my name is Shannon Tai and I am a student editor from Saint Louis University. This article does a good job in maintaining a neutral, stable point of view and citing after every piece of information. However, it is not broad in its coverage. This article could benefit from an expansion of medical components of respiratory arrest and possibly some newfound facts from current research studies. The second reference listed in the references sections labelled “National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute” brings me to a page that discusses respiratory failure. However, respiratory failure and respiratory arrest are two different things. Respiratory arrest refers to the complete cessation of breathing. Respiratory failure is the inability to provide adequate ventilation for the body’s requirements. This citation is very questionable and should be replaced in the article. I recommend using the following citation to learn more about the possible causes of respiratory arrest in infants. You can read the abstract if you click the link at the end of the citation. Shannon.tai (talk)

Leape LL, Holder TM, Franklin JD, Amoury RA, Ashcraft KW. Respiratory arrest in infants secondary to gastroesophageal reflux. Pediatrics. 1977. 60(6).

Good references to look at
Below are some good references to look at to expand this article. I welcome all feedback. You can access the papers of the following references by clicking on the link at the end of each reference. I am using the Vancouver System for citations. Shannon.tai (talk)

Schindler MB, Bohn D, Cox BN, McCrindle BW, Jarvis A, Edmonds J, Barker G. Outcome of out-of-hospital cardiac or respiratory arrest in children. New England journal of medicine. 1996; 335:1473-1479.

Fish DR, Howard RS, Wiles CM, Simon L. Respiratory arrest: a complication of cerebellar ectopia in adults. Journal of neurology. 1988; 51: 714-716.

Ideas for improving the article
Overall, this stub will benefit from more sections, such as causes, symptoms, diagnoses, and treatment. This is an important medical phenomenon that must be informed to the public. I welcome all feedback and encourage fellow wikipedia editors to discuss any of the extensions I make within this article. Shannon.tai (talk)

Within the introduction, I thought it was important to distinguish the differences between cardiac arrest and respiratory arrest as well as the differences between respiratory failure and respiratory arrest. These distinct definitions will lessen confusion for readers. Furthermore, I expanded the causes of respiratory arrest by adding three more detailed causes: airway obstruction, decreased respiratory effort, and respiratory muscle weakness. Shannon.tai (talk)

Review of recent edits
You have added some good material to this article. A couple of specific suggestions:
 * In general, WP articles can be improved with more but smaller paragraphs. You should apply this to the lead.
 * The lead should only contain a summary of information in the rest of the article. Some of the material in the second paragraph may be better suited to a new section. See the Style Guide for a list of suggested sections for an article on Diseases or disorders or syndromes. For example, the explanation of how respiratory arrest differs from respiratory failure might be moved to a new section on Diagnosis.
 * The article needs many more references. Every statement of fact needs to have a reference. Note that one sentence may have more than one statement of fact or one statement may be distributed in more than one sentence.
 * Many wikilinks should be added to other articles.

Thank you for your feedback. I truly appreciate the edits that you are encouraging me to make. I improved my WP article with more but smaller paragraphs in the lead. I included the explanation of how respiratory arrest differs from respiratory failure in the lead, because we talked in our meeting how it is important to establish the differences between the two. Otherwise, they might be mistaken for the same thing. It is important to inform the readers on why respiratory arrest is different form respiratory failure and why respiratory arrest is an important topic to have its own wikipedia article. Thank you for the suggestion of adding more references. I added many references after each statement of facts. Generally, I used one citation per paragraph of 200 words. I also incorporated many more wiki links to all of my sections. Thank you for your input! It has greatly improved my article. Shannon.tai (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:43, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello, I like the list of treatments that you have added, but I don't think that it's obvious that it's complete. For instance, oropharyngeal, nasopharyngeal and supraglottic airway adjuncts are not included. Also, as a generic point, it's not mentioned that treatment includes providing high-concentration oxygen.cannywizard (talk) 09:54, 24 August 2016 (UTC)