Talk:Resplendent quetzal

Avocados
Do they really swallow avocados whole? I'm having trouble picturing a little bird doing that. I thought avocados were toxic to birds. ~Lu —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.131.88.179 (talk) 22:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The wild avocados they eat are nothing like the shop ones we eat, they are much smaller  Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  07:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Size
But how big is the Resplendent Quetzal? Anthony Appleyard 07:51, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Thoughts regarding the photograph
67.162.50.93 06:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)I really think that the picture here does very little to capture the beauty of this bird. I can't even see the upperparts or the face.


 * True, the problem is finding a non-copyright alternative to my pic - previous replacements have all been removed as unsourced or copyright violations.  Jimfbleak . talk . 07:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Central America
I rated this as importance=mid due to the prominance of this species in the history and culture of several countries in the region. Srice13 16:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

~ I am wondering why the tense of this and most entries words cultures in the past tense?

example,

Myth and legend

The Resplendent Quetzal was (IS) considered divine, associated with the "snake god", Quetzalcoatl by Pre-Columbian Central American civilizations. Their iridescent green tail feathers, symbols for spring plant growth, were (ARE) venerated by the ancient Mayas and Aztecs, who viewed (VIEW) the quetzal as the "god of the air" and as a symbol of goodness and light. Mesoamerican rulers and some nobility of other ranks wore headdresses made from quetzal feathers, symbolically connecting them to Quetzalcoatl. Quetzalcoatl was (IS) the creator god and god of wind, often depicted with grey hair. In several Mesoamerican languages, the term for quetzal can also mean precious, sacred, or erected.
 * "The ancient Mayas and Aztecs viewed" (not "view") the quetzal etc." because there are no more ancient Mayas and Aztecs, only modern ones. Likewise there are no more "Pre-Columbian Central American civilizations".  If we have a reliable source saying that a significant number of living people consider the quetzal to be divine, worship Quetzalcoatl, etc., we could change some tenses.  &mdash;JerryFriedman 01:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


 * They look pretty divine (: Jimfbleak 17:16, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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Formatting Problem
There was a noticeable formatting problem in this article where the lines of the categories overlapped the species info box (also the 140px picture was blown up to 225px, therefore losing resolution; annoying but minor). I fixed it by removing the unnecessary TOC box code that was throwing it off. I wasn't signed in and someone reverted it, obviously without looking. I undid his revert (once), but I know better than to revert-war. If you see this problem again, check for the TOC box that it doesn't need, as WP automatically does TOC on long-enough articles. And the moral of the story: don't revert unsigned in edits without checking that they're legit. Garnet avi (talk) 08:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Feeling harriered
This page says they hover. Do resplendents do, too? TREKphiler  hit me ♠  16:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see anything about hovering there. Is that the page you meant? Anyway, my few sources don't mention hovering. &mdash;JerryFriedman (Talk) 02:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Resplendent Quetzal for November 2010
Nominated Feb 10 2010;

Support:


 * 1) Sabine's Sunbird   talk  07:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:08, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 00:04, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) Shyamal (talk) 15:29, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) &mdash;innotata 20:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Comments:


 * Stunning and charismatic Central American species of considerable cultural significance. Either this or the hornero helps combat systematic bias. Sabine's Sunbird  talk  07:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Passerine was a failure, and we need a species article to get a success. This or the hornero are best due to the issue of systemic bias. &mdash;innotata 20:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

IP vandalism?
An IP posted this just about an hour ago, and I reverted it because its uncited, and looks very questionable. Is it vandalism? — focus 00:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

''It has also been stated in legend that the Resplendent Quetzal became silent after it used its mystic abilities to look into the then distant future beyond the year 2012, seeing the events of Armageddon itself and the end times which followed. It was then said that the Resplendent Quetzal would stare intently at the sun all day in an attempt to scorch its own eyes out, horrified by that which it had borne witness to and wishing to see no more''


 * Not sure as yet. Sounds dogy but you never know...will look around. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:18, 1 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I know that some people believe(d?) that the Resplendent Quetzal has some sort of mystic/spiritual powers. Is precognition one of them? Dunno. Quite a creepy story though. --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 00:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Web of science search - journal articles to investigate
Here are some journal articles to investigate, from a web of science search. Be good to figure out which ones are useful and which are too esoteric or off topic etc. Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:25, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

1. Title: Analysis of Nest Sites of the Resplendent Quetzal (Pharomachrus mocinno): Relationship between Nest and Snag Heights Author(s): Siegfried DG, Linville DS, Hille D Source: WILSON JOURNAL OF ORNITHOLOGY  Volume: 122   Issue: 3   Pages: 608-611   Published: SEP 2010 Times Cited: 0 2. Title: Morphometric and molecular differentiation between quetzal subspecies of Pharomachrus mocinno (Trogoniformes: Trogonidae) Author(s): Solorzano S, Oyama K Source: REVISTA DE BIOLOGIA TROPICAL  Volume: 58   Issue: 1   Pages: 357-371   Published: MAR 2010 Times Cited: 0 3. Title: The effectiveness of a Mesoamerican 'paper park' in conserving cloud forest avifauna Author(s): Martin TE, Blackburn GA Source: BIODIVERSITY AND CONSERVATION  Volume: 18   Issue: 14   Pages: 3841-3859   Published: DEC 2009 Times Cited: 0 4. Title: Genetic diversity and conservation of the Resplendent Quetzal Pharomachrus mocinno in Mesoamerica Author(s): Solorzano S, Garcia-Juarez M, Oyama K Source: REVISTA MEXICANA DE BIODIVERSIDAD  Volume: 80   Issue: 1   Pages: 241-248   Published: APR 2009 Times Cited: 1 5. Title: Nesting behavior and nestling care of the Pavonine Quetzal (Pharomachrus pavoninus) Author(s): Lebbin DJ Source: WILSON JOURNAL OF ORNITHOLOGY  Volume: 119   Issue: 3   Pages: 458-463   Published: SEP 2007 Times Cited: 0 6. Title: Birds of a high-altitude cloud forest in Alta Verapaz, Guatemala Author(s): Eisermann K, Schulz U Source: REVISTA DE BIOLOGIA TROPICAL  Volume: 53   Issue: 3-4   Pages: 577-594   Published: SEP-DEC 2005 Times Cited: 3 7. Title: The Resplendent Quetzal (Pharomachrus mocinno) in the Sierra Yalijux, Alta Verapaz, Guatemala Author(s): Renner SC Source: JOURNAL OF ORNITHOLOGY  Volume: 146   Issue: 1   Pages: 79-84   Published: JAN 2005 Times Cited: 5 8. Title: Conservation priorities for Resplendent Quetzals based on analysis of mitochondrial DNA control-region sequences Author(s): Solorzano S, Baker AJ, Oyama K Source: CONDOR  Volume: 106   Issue: 3   Pages: 449-456   Published: AUG 2004 Times Cited: 7 9. Title: The Chimalapas Region, Oaxaca, Mexico: a high-priority region for bird conservation in Mesoamerica Author(s): Peterson AT, Navarro-Siguenza AG, Hernandez-Banos BE, et al. Source: BIRD CONSERVATION INTERNATIONAL  Volume: 13   Issue: 3   Pages: 227-253   Published: SEP 2003 Times Cited: 5 10. Title: Quetzal abundance in relation to fruit availability in a cloud forest in southeastern Mexico Author(s): Solorzano S, Castillo S, Valverde T, et al. Source: BIOTROPICA  Volume: 32   Issue: 3   Pages: 523-532   Published: SEP 2000 Times Cited: 14 11. Title: Seed dispersal, seed predation, and seedling recruitment of a neotropical montane tree Author(s): Wenny DG Source: ECOLOGICAL MONOGRAPHS  Volume: 70   Issue: 2   Pages: 331-351   Published: MAY 2000 Times Cited: 107 12. Title: The diet of Resplendent Quetzal (Pharomachrus mocinno mocinno: Trogonidae) in a Mexican cloud forest Author(s): Avila ML, Hernandez VH, Velarde E Source: BIOTROPICA  Volume: 28   Issue: 4   Pages: 720-727   Part: Part B   Published: DEC 1996 Times Cited: 8 13. Title: Key trophic adaptation of trogoniformes and morphofunctional peculiarities of their jaw apparatus Author(s): Korzun LP Source: ZOOLOGICHESKY ZHURNAL  Volume: 75   Issue: 9   Pages: 1382-1393   Published: SEP 1996 Times Cited: 3 14. Title: IMPLICATIONS OF INTRATROPICAL MIGRATION ON RESERVE DESIGN - A CASE-STUDY USING PHAROMACHRUS-MOCINNO Author(s): POWELL GVN, BJORK R Source: CONSERVATION BIOLOGY  Volume: 9   Issue: 2   Pages: 354-362   Published: APR 1995 Times Cited: 45 15. Title: SPATIAL-ORGANIZATION OF THE STRUCTURAL COLOR SYSTEM IN THE QUETZAL, PHAROMACHRUS-MOCINNO (AVES, TROGONIDAE) AND EVOLUTIONARY IMPLICATIONS Author(s): MONGENAJERA J, HERNANDEZ F Source: REVISTA DE BIOLOGIA TROPICAL  Volume: 42   Pages: 131-139   Supplement: Suppl. 2  Published: AUG 1994 Times Cited: 2 16. Title: AZTEC EXPLOITATION OF CLOUD FORESTS - TRIBUTES OF LIQUIDAMBAR RESIN AND QUETZAL FEATHERS Author(s): PETERSON AA, PETERSON AT Source: GLOBAL ECOLOGY AND BIOGEOGRAPHY LETTERS  Volume: 2   Issue: 5   Pages: 165-173   Published: SEP 1992 Times Cited: 1

Bird killing itself?
"Until recently, it was thought that the Resplendent Quetzal could not be bred or held for any long time in captivity, and indeed it was noted for usually killing itself soon after being captured or caged."

Is this even possible?? 131.130.16.86 (talk) 15:35, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * It could starve itself or fly into walls AlexWolfx (talk) 15:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * They did die in captivity. Unless somebody can figure out how it happened, the article should probably just say that they were popularly believed to kill themselves (if even that has a source). &mdash;JerryFriedman  (Talk) 16:38, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, this seems to be a record of captive breeding in 1943. &mdash;JerryFriedman (Talk) 16:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 04:11, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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Close Paraphrasing?
While reviewing for GA, there might be some unattributed, very close paraphrasing. See here. I changed the plays an important role in in a fairly minor way, although it isn't much better in prose compared to the original, still, IMO it's better considering the original is very close. I've added more examples to the GA review in bold, many thanks! VickKiang (talk) 02:09, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

On Hold
IMHO these are probably most of my suggestions, will look at some minor c/e, but will place on hold for now. VickKiang (talk) 07:10, 16 August 2022 (UTC)