Talk:Retreat (survivalism)

worthwhile
This is definitely a worthwhile topic; however, we need to include more references to print works. Use Mel Tappan On Survival for one viewpoint (that a rural town is the best solution), and I suspect that Kurt Saxon has plenty to say on the subject as well (though I haven't read him). I'd shy away from blog posts by JWR, and since Rawles on Retreats book isn't really "published" (as I understand it), it's not the best source (Patriots can be used as containing an example of a type of retreat). In general, websites are nice, but not as authoritative as published works. --Spangineerws (háblame)  03:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the qualifications of Saxon and Rawles, comparatively, I think it is very important to keep in mind that both are essentially self published. Rawles simply has the benefit of coming into the publishing world in a time where self publishing is much more easily done via the internet, rather than with self published newsletters and small print run books. I'm not familiar enough with Tappan's publishing history to include him in the comparison, but I think the disparity you imply between Saxon and Rawles is rather irrevelant. Readyrodent (talk) 08:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that Saxon and Rawles have different qualifications; I agree that both are less than ideal for the reason you state&mdash;they're basically self-published. On the other hand, Mel Tappan is better established, since his work is compiled in Tappan on Survival (Paladin Press) and he had a regular column in Guns and Ammo magazine. --Spangineerws  (háblame)  18:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I actually meant that I feel Saxon and Rawles are both qualified to be featured here. While self published, for the most part, they both have quite a bit of support as "experts" in the field.Readyrodent (talk) 08:37, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Groups
It would be nice to have a list of groups that do this, frugal squirrels for example. ;) ---Wolfe (talk) 19:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

New Wiki Page on Joel Skousen?
Since Joel Skousen is mentioned so frequently in this page, I think that it would be apropriate to create a Wiki page about him. (Similar to the ones that already exist on Mel Tappan, James Rawles, Jeff Cooper, and Howard Ruff.) If there are no objections I will draft a new page on Skousen in the next few days. (As time permits.)

I created two new sections on Retreat architecture and Retreat logistics. Feel free to add to them.

Thanks for your input! -- Jeff Trasel, 2327 EST, 25 Dec. 07 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trasel (talk • contribs) 03:27, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

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As promised, I created a stub page on Skousen. Please add relevant material to it. Thanks! -- Jeff Trasel, 1705 EST, 01 Jan. 08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trasel (talk • contribs) 21:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Governmental retreats
Perhaps this article could use a section. Actual examples are nuclear Fallout shelters, especially big bunkers like in Switzerland (see Sonnenberg Tunnel) or The_Greenbrier or Cheyenne Mountain. And of course there are such scifi facilities for surviving big asteroid attacks or massive volcanic eruptions or whatever (as replayed ad nauseum on History and Science channels). It would be nice to know if any exist in real life and put them in here. There are a few interesting things under Category:Subterranea (geography) also that can be explored. Thoughts? CarolMooreDC (talk) 13:12, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


 * That's in a different context that this wiki page's topic. The retreats here are survivalist (private) retreats), but there should at least be mention of the  government's equivalents Including the continuity of government shelters. Perhaps we ought to add links to some wiki pages on government shelters==like the Greenbrier, continuity of government (COG) shelters, and so forth.  So should those links go  in the body of this article or down in the "See also" section?  Whadaya think, folks? Thanks BobbieCharlton (talk) 17:38, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Since the name of the article does not specify private, I don't think a short section on govt shelters would hurt the article. Just listing them might confuse people. CarolMooreDC (talk) 17:52, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Survivalists are private individuals. Survivalism is a movement of private citizens--not a government program. There are analogues in the public sector, but those fall under other categories. So in my opinion POINTERS to other wiki pages would be fitting, but significantly expanding this article off topic would not be.  I think that one paragraph briefly describing related topics (with links) would be perfectly fitting.  OBTW, have you see the wiki page about Swiss  Redoubts  ???  That is very cool. BobbieCharlton (talk) 18:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I started a stub paragraph, please expand it. Thx, BobbieCharlton (talk) 19:01, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Links and etymology
See article Bootle(town) in the section 'Toponymy' they mention Boltelai, Botle, Bothull (dwelling). Could that mean any etymological link with 'bolt-hole' ? (it, you'll notice redirects to this Retreat (survivalism) article. Read etymology notes of Bothy also. Should Mountain hut be added in See also list?JohnsonL623 (talk) 08:58, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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