Talk:Return specialist

Free Agrent
I'm not an NFL fan so I am only assuming this is a mistake. The text reads...

Free Agrent running back Leon Washington

Is it meant to be "Free Agent"?

Montalban (talk) 03:42, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose we merge both kickoff returner and punt returner into this page. While I'm aware that not every punt returner is also a kickoff returner and vice-versa, I think both articles' contents can be explained in this one page. There's really nothing that could be said on either page that couldn't also be said here. Lizard (talk) 22:11, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 100% agreed. Just have it the way the safety article is written. ~ Dissident93  (talk)  01:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea to merge the three articles. Jweiss11 (talk) 02:29, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * All three articles even use an image of the same player. Lizard  (talk) 03:20, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems like a good idea.  StarScream1007  ►Talk  13:43, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Makes sense to me. Surely kickoff specialist can be moved to kicker, and touchdown pass to pass. Cake (talk) 06:10, 25 February 2016 (UTC)


 * We should probably go over Template:Gridiron football concepts and trim down on some articles. Was there ever an agreement to make an article for every single football concept? Most of them are stubs. Motion (gridiron football) and Shift (gridiron football) have nearly word-for-word the exact same leads. Lizard  (talk) 07:08, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I made the shift article. Motion and shift are pretty distinct, as the person who made the motion article tried to tease out, and I wouldn't think "pre snap movement" deserves an article. A shift changes the formation, a motion is one dude flowing within a formation. You won't ever hear a receiver roaming called a shift, and you won't hear any of the historical shifts listed called a motion. My dogmatism there aside, I agree it should be gone over. I've tried to repair it in various ways. Cake (talk) 10:16, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yeh I know they're different, and I can't really see how to combine them. But if strong safety and free safety aren't notable enough on their own to merit an article, there's a ton that can be knocked out. I mean, Alley Oop (football)? Shoot the gap? Counter trey? Lizard  (talk) 20:30, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

I disagree. You can see in the german Wikipedia, that there are different aspects to tell on both positions.--JTCEPB (talk) 20:07, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you translate some of that info into the English articles to support this? Lizard  (talk) 20:33, 4 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Support merge. Clearly a good idea given the state of all three articles and the significant overlap. ~ RobTalk 23:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and merged. It's only my second or third time merging articles so it's possible I left something behind. I also removed some obvious peacocks and weasels and added reference tags. Lizard  (talk) 01:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)