Talk:Returned and Services League of Australia

Move proposal
I can't think of any good reason not to use the fuller, clearer name. ReeseM 02:30, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 12:08, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Japanese war crimes and the RSL; Yamashita´s Gold ("Operation Golden Lily") and US slush funds
Ben Chifley co-signed for Australia the 1952 peace treaty with Japan drafted by Alan Dulles of the CIA (see "Yamashita´s Gold", authors Sterling and Peggy Seagrave, 2003), with the USA having expediently failed by 1950 to prosecute Japanese war crimes to any extent in favour of rehabilitating the pre-war Jap elite (see Peter Godwin, "Betrayal in High Places"). The Stimson/John J McCloy slush funds of non-returned SE Asian assets plundered by the Japanese in Operation Golden Lily in WW2 have existed, initially under US control, from 1945 to this day, and are still in use, which is why the USA (most recently: Bill Clinton) has prohibited access to the archival files on McArthur´s post-war satrapy in Japan.

Aust. POWs, as also NZ, British, Dutch and US POWs were directly affected by this betrayal of their suffering, given art. 14 of the peace treaty. In fact, US POWs had been forced by their government to sign non-disclosure statements upon their release from Jap captivity. So why does this RSL article not discuss this matter from the standpoint of the RSL 1945 to date? Especially as there are indications of resurgent Jap militarism.

Branches and Sub Branches
It is my understanding that the RSL state divisions are called Branches and the local clubs are called Sub Branches? Does any one know about this? Ozdaren 01:03, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

That is close, but not quite correct. Yes, the state division is called a branch. The local organisation is called a sub-branch. Many sub-branches have an associated "Club", which controls the more social facilities, (such as restaurants, bars and the like). Ususally all sub-Branch members are members of the Club (some will be officers of it), but many clubs also allow the public to join it too. The public can't join the sub-Branch in the same way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.37.212.89 (talk) 03:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes that's a fair summary. In NSW there is a clear distinction between the RSL club and the sub-branch. The club is in practice the building and grounds itself - membership (and in practice anyone can join an RSL club in NSW) entitles the member to use the facilities, get discounts, etc. The sub-branch is restricted to returned servicemen or other eligible people (I believe this now includes former national service members). The relationship between the two is complex. In my old club the sub-branch was very wealthy as it owned assets whereas the club itself struggled financially.
 * I should also add there is a massive difference between RSL clubs in NSW and other states because NSW clubs have had poker machine revenue coming in for years. Things may be different these days but RSL clubs interstate use to be very modest affairs compared to something like say Rooty Hill RSL. Tigerman2005 (talk) 08:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I have proposed that the article RSL Queensland be merged into this article because that article mentions quite a bit about the RSL, in fact as it was when it was first created, it seemed to be simply about the RSL, certainly from the lead section which only mentioned the RSL. The sections on that article that are specific to the Queensland branch can easily be incorporated into a new section in this article about the Queensland branch. I have included this in Proposed mergers. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 15:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Support the merger. Some of the content can fit into the background of the RSL in this article. Bidgee (talk) 16:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

As it has been one week and there have been no objections raised I have merged the RSL Queensland article into this article retaining the only content from that article that seemed specific to RSL Queensland. The rest of the info appeared to be about the RSL in general. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 16:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Major-General Bill Crews
I have just read the article because I was trying to find out who the current president of the rsl is and noticed it is not stated here, anyway a quick google search revealed it is Major-General Bill Crews. maybe someone can add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoneintraining (talk • contribs) 06:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Influence
For the person/s who wrote the citation-free section regarding the RSL's monarchism - the reason portraits of the Queen are hung is that she is the crown head of state, and that traditionally is toasted at dining-ins. Also, for a neutral, encyclopaedic article, this section portrays the RSL's portrait-hanging monarchistic tendencies in a negative manner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.0.245 (talk) 08:38, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

New External Link added
I moderate the Culture Victoria website and have added an external link to relevant information about the history and role of the RSL. Eleworth (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:44, 28 April 2011 (UTC).

Bolton's rank?
The cited source of the Australian War Memorial reports Bolton served to 1918 at the rank of Lt Col.

Conversely, the Biographical Dictionary of the Australian Senate (Online edition) refers to Bolton retiring in 1920 at the rank honorary brigadier general after commanding Ballarat Training Depot. The Australian Senate dictionary refers to several creditable sources. The Australian War Memorial cite does not.

So which rank was he? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AusMilitaryHistory (talk • contribs) 04:05, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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Notable member
Weary Dunlop was an Honorary  Life Member  Makewa (talk) 01:46, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Medal ribbons
I have been told that medal ribbons should be renewed every so many years in Aust. Is this correct? 2406:5A00:2C32:AB00:6979:CD8F:467B:F82F (talk) 07:44, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Captain Patrick William Turner MBE
Retired British army captain in care home in queensland. How can we get Dad home to England ? 176.255.125.69 (talk) 07:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)