Talk:Returnees from Albania

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Just getting started on this big affair. Expert help welcome.

References in English are scanty but I'll do what I can. LDH 19:20, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * For articles like this, reliable sources are a necessity. Do what you can, the sooner the better. Hope you haven't "bitten off more than you can chew," to use an old Southern U.S. cliche. Realkyhick 19:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, we're getting there. I've invited expert attention in the article itself. What I don't want, of course, but what I'm afraid I'll get, is some righteous poseur copying and pasting stuff from Human Rights Watch or worse. (HRW knows absolutely nothing except what they read in the papers.) Articles at Wiki about terrorism tend to consist of a chronology of speculations and op-eds that are in no way reliable, but are asserted to be reliable merely because they appeared in a newspaper. See what one clown did to the article Abu Ayyub al-Masri -- he reverted it to June of 2006 in order to revive a bunch of crap from the press at that time, and in the process undid many improvements to every aspect of the article. On the subject of terrorism, very few journalists are even remotely competent, and the remainder simply write whatever they think their readers would enjoy reading. Copying such crap is what Usenet is for. Another problem is outright pro-terrorist propaganda at Wiki, as in the article Ayman al-Zawahiri, and pro-terrorist lying, as in Muhammad Hanif (check the histories of those two). It all makes me doubt that Wikipedia has any future, at least where terrorism is concerned. LDH 11:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Torture
This article needs to talk about the torture of the detainees... seems like a glaring omission, and the detainees' pages could even for the most part be merged into this article. Kuralesache (talk) 14:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC)