Talk:Revelations: Persona

Split?
I think that each Persona game should get it's own page, it would make this article much easier to read.


 * Agreed. --Delf 20:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I made a page for Persona 2 by simply copying the text from this page. New User 14:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Considering the fact that the official title of the game has been retconned to Shin Megami Tensei: Persona, it seems odd that Revelations: Persona should remain as the official Wiki artile title. Imagine my surprise when I typed in Shin Megami Tensei: Persona into the search bar and was actually redirected to this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.188.183.7 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 13 October 2009
 * It's all in Talk:Shin_Megami_Tensei:_Persona. &mdash; Blue. 17:38, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
 * First, the official title wasn't "retconned"; it's a remake with a new name. Perhaps we can tweak the lead sentence to include Shin Megami Tensei: Persona in bold print, so as to make it clear that this article is about both games.  Second, consider the following about each game:
 * There isn't a lot of background information on Revelations: Persona, and finding non-print sources for reviews is a bit tricky. So you have the gameplay and story, the localization, and some critical reception.
 * Shin Megami Tensei: Persona is more or less the same in terms of gameplay and story. Many of the minute differences aren't important enough to be detailed here.  There is new music, and the localization is new, and there is new reception for the game, though.
 * The current article covers both games, and is only about medium-length. To separate the two would be to create two shorter articles.  Really, when you get down to it, the PSP remake is just a laundry list of major changes: graphics, music, gameplay, translation.  There's not enough to say about it for it to merit its own article. --gakon5 (talk) 19:57, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Caucasian?
Regarding the following line: "and the changing of Mark from a freckled Caucasian boy to a token African American character with somewhat offensively stereotypical dialogue" - Mark wasn't ever caucasian -- he was Asian, like the rest of the cast. --McDohl 07:47, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Also those aren't freckles... they're some kind of face paint or tattoos (not likely) ... think painting a black tear on your face only weirder (yes I realize it's 2011)--12.213.80.36 (talk) 04:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Improvement.
I've improved the first Persona's section. I'll do the same for Innocent Sin, Eternal Punishment, and will add the third title information! --Delf 20:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I added the two missing playable characters. If you could add the original Japanese names. --Knofbath 20:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Johnnyfog, I think it's good to move the characters section to a new page like List of Persona 2 characters. The article title could be List of Revelation Persona characters or List of Persona 1 characters. -- Sameboat - 同舟 04:08, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

"like" stuff
I got here since the article was listed at WP:CVG/A I read it and found that to get B class, you have to explain the gameplay better, atm it just says "like in that game", which doesnt tell you much, then sometimes the stuff is too detailed.

Try to make that it only contains stuff, which a person not playing/considering to play the game would want to know. Ill just quote a part from the article here: In the Fusion menu, a color icon determines how compatible each pair of demons are: A red icon warns that the pair of demons are incompatible, and are in danger of resulting in a failed Fusion. A white icon indicates that the demons are of average compatability, and no complications will arise. Finally, a blue icon indicates that the demons are very compatible, and may produce an enhanced Persona with favourable spells and/or attributes."

This is a typical sentence/part that a non player would not want to know, so try to not include such parts. Also read WP:SS..

Hope that helps ;)  Y zm o  talk  15:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Assessment
I'm going to rate this start class, but it can get to B/GA with some work. Some notes; If you have any questions, leave a note on my talk page. Cheers, Dihydrogen Monoxide (party) 05:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Rather than using external links in the article text, use these as references (in the infobox, lead, etc.)
 * "is the first in a series of role-playing games for PlayStation consoles – one of several spin-off series within developer Atlus' Megami Tensei franchise. " - this doesn't really make any sense...
 * The lead could talk about reception etc. so that it fully discusses the article
 * Rename the "Revelations: Persona" to something like "Gameplay"
 * "The main character, Mary, and Nate battle a horde of zombies." - don't need bold here
 * The "Game mechanics" section is slightly long and crufty. Remember to summarise.
 * "See also" not really needed - instead create an article for the series

Name
Considering the Biblical motif of past games, including in the titles, would not "Goddess Apocrypha: Persona" be a closer translation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Rubino (talk • contribs) 13:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Remake coming to NA
As reported by VGB 75.50.151.34 (talk) 14:34, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, we know.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 22:31, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Gameplay section
Looks like the gameplay section is still disorganised and overly detailed. I'll see if I can help it a bit. Feel free to comment on any changes. 145.99.155.53 (talk) 21:22, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Mark
A quick note on why I reverted the edit by 72.39.61.241; Mark is also called Mark in the Japanese version of the game, but in there it's just a nickname. The real reason I changed it back however is for consistency with the rest of the article, which refers to the characters by their names from the NA release. Boksha (talk) 02:16, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Putting both boxes in the infobox
Besides making that part of the article look less cluttered (at least in my opinion), putting both the PS1 and PSP box art in the infobox would allow us to more explicitly say "Look, this article is about both games." --gakon5 (talk / contribs) 04:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * We're suppose to avoid putting multiple images into the Infobox, per WP:FUC #3.
 * And per WP:BOLDTITLE, only the article's subject is boldface. Since the article title right now is "Revelations: Persona", that should be the only bold title. &mdash; Blue. 02:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The aim was to make it obvious that this article is about both games. I was working on an elaborate rebuttal to your WP:FUC #3; instead, if we can concede that the two or three guys on this talk page who said these games should have separate articles, should not sway this article's design, then I'm fine with moving the image back and not having "Shin Megami Tensei: Persona" in bold.  I would hope people who know anything about this remake know what Rev: Persona is and are smart enough to infer that this article is about both games.  With regards to FUC #3, though, I don't think it fits.  As cover art, it is still being used for identification and critical commentary, and I see nothing on WP:FUC or WP:NFC with regards to templates.  I just know at some point they told everyone to stop using FU images as decoration in navboxes. --gakon5 (talk / contribs) 02:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Development --> Localization changes
i think it would be more appropriate for the header to be changed to localization changes rather than development since it focused purely on the differences between the american, japanese, ps1, and psp versions.

also through some research it seems that the original japanese ps1 version had characters which had dark hair and light skin because they were all supposed to be asian. it was ONLY for the NA PS1 version that they decided to change the appearance of many of the characters to make it more "american" and diverse, thats why the main character became a redhead, mark turned to a black kid, ellen became a blonde, nate's hair turned brown. they used it to justify that it was an american school.

however for the psp remake as with most remakes they wanted it to be more like the ORIGINAL, so that meant like the original japanese ps1 version where all the characters were asian. --24.16.19.72 (talk) 11:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Persona sprites
A screenshot including a Persona sprite in action would be nice. The artwork for the Personae composition wise is probably as close to something that looks like fine-art to ever appear in a video game / the best Atlus has ever produced (IMO) --72.173.160.58 (talk) 04:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)--72.173.160.58 (talk) 04:07, 4 May 2011 (UTC)