Talk:Revington Arthur

Assumptions and articles
From the draft page (after markup adjustment/stripping):


 * Comment: I imagine that this fellow is "notable"; but much of this draft gives the opposite impression. (1) "His artwork was reviewed in ARTnews in 1946 and 1953; and by Art Digest (now Arts Magazine) in 1984." If those reviews were substantive, I'd expect to see them summarized; as there's no indication here of what was written, I suspect that they were instead mere passing mentions. (2) The NYHS archive merely lists Arthur as one of a great many names (and it's my understanding that exhibition catalogues of the time were usually little or no more than mere lists, often on single sheets of paper). (3) "His students included [...]" various people so obscure that they haven't yet been accorded their own articles. ¶ If he's notable, then why does the need to relate such trivia? Hoary (talk) 21:34, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * User:Hoary it's best not to make assumptions. Have you tried getting access to those articles? FloridaArmy (talk) 21:38, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

It is indeed. I'm talking about impressions that I get from the draft. My impressions may be wrong. Are they? (I'm open to correction.) No, I haven't tried getting access to those articles. If you've got access to them,, what do they say? And if you haven't, which online periodical archives or similar have you tried for them so far? (I do realize that looking in periodical archives can be a tedious process.) -- Hoary (talk) 21:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * User:Hoary it looks like another editor added some of them? I see some details. I think they also clarified that his work is in museum collections. I think it's enough. I have no objections to an AfD discussion but I don't think relegating this kind of subject to indefinite purgatory in draftspace is useful and the 6 month deletion cycle for subject with demonstrated notability is improper. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:02, 22 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Well, I have to agree with the gist of what you say there, FloridaArmy. Though avoiding deletion after six months seems easy, as does resuscitation after such deletion. (I'm a lot more annoyed by summary deletion for other reasons, dubiously claimed by drowsy or otherwise inattentive admins: example.) -- Hoary (talk) 22:47, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * User:Hoary it wasn't clear to me from the entry where the artist is from and what his heritage is exactly. He is British? Lives in England? His parents are Nigerian?
 * I tend to find what's written about artist almost impossible to decipher. I tried to translate the bit about his work reflecting things but probably hashed it up. One of the great things about Wikipedia is that different editors bring different perspectives and expertise so we see things and can fix things collaboratively. I find individual editors working up entries in their "entirety" is not really best practice and promotes ownership issues. But as with many issues here I seem to be in the minority. Thanks for reviewing entries. I have lots more in the works if you'd like to review more but as with this one most are rather stubby initial efforts. Take care. FloridaArmy (talk) 00:02, 23 February 2023 (UTC)