Talk:Rey Mysterio/Archive 1

Requested Move
I think this article should be retitled as "Rey Mysterio, Jr." as this is the name he is famous for. Maybe Oscar Gutierrez should be a redirect or something. jayjay 11:06, 27 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~ 


 * I would definitely support this. Have you listed it on Requested moves?  --HBK 15:44, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Support now that it's listed. --HBK 03:07, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Support and if this doesn't work, we should move it to the properly accented version of his name.--Darren Jowalsen 18:25, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. From what I've seen, it is current practice to list professional wrestlers under their birth names unless they have made a name for themselves outside of professional wrestling under their nom de guerre. (e.g. Hulk Hogan vs. Glen Jacobs).--Darryl Hamlin 12:16, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Actually, this issue has been raised before on WikiProject Professional wrestling. But wrestlers don't have to make a name for themselves outside of wrestling for their common names to be used here. "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert, Shawn Michaels and Jake "The Snake" Roberts are all under their stage names here. While for American wrestlers it's alright since they tend to change names and gimmicks, with lucha libre wrestlers it's different because they tend to stick with their wrestling names and their wrestling names seem far more important - especially with a name like Rey Mysterio's that has a defined lineage. --Jtalledo (talk) 15:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. The problem with this is that Oscar is only the newest Rey Mysterio (Misterio). The original is under Rey Misterio, Sr.. (The man now know as Mysterioso was Rey Misterio II at some point, if I remember correctly). This is the same reason the person Tiger Mask IV is not under Tiger Mask (which is dedicated to all Tiger Masks).
 * ↪Lakes 18:41, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. Well, that's why it would have the "Jr." tagged along with it. If it was going to be moved to Rey Mysterio, then I'd understand that point. --Jtalledo (talk) 19:22, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Sure he's used Rey Mysterio, Jr. for most of his life, but it's not his current name. I still think we should keep the current name and just provide many redirects.
 * ↪Lakes 19:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Support. This has already been gone over numerous times. There is one user in particular who feels the need to violate the naming convention and change all entries to the wrestlers real names. The fact is that the name that is MOST WELL KNOWN is the name that should (and has been) used as the entry. TruthCrusader 15:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Oppose. How can you say that Rey Mysterio, Jr. is his most famous gimmick. His most famous gimmick is the one his is portraying now, Rey Mysterio. I suggest a move to Rey Myserio and Oscar Gutierrez should redirect there. — M o e   ε


 * Oppose. Oscar Gutierrez has not wrestled as "Rey Mysterio, Jr" in several years, and arguably is most famous under the name "Rey Mysterio". With the long-held practice of listing professional wrestlers who have not crossed over into other areas of entertainment under their real names, this article should be left as-is. - Chadbryant 15:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Result
It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. WhiteNight T 17:45, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Feud With Orton
I personally feel that it should be noted that some people may feel that the Feud with Orton, mainly about Orton's continuing comments about Eddie, is perhaps going too far even for the WWE. Night_Bringer 21:50 10 Febuary GMT +10
 * While I totally agree that it has gone too far, Wikipedia tries to stay away from opinions and speculation in its articles. If you can find a few credible sources (not blogs or message boards etc) that state something of this nature, it could probably be added to the article. --Naha|(talk) 19:20, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you to whoever it was that found that evidence that people have indeed found the Feud with Orton offensive. Night_Bringer 22:08 2nd March GMT +10

Other comments
To whom it may concern:

I just looked at the IMDb. According to that source, Rey Mysterio's real name is Oscar Gutiérrez, not Oscar Gonzales. (Incidentally, the IMDb gives his name as "Guttierrez", but the "Birth name" listed is "Oscar Gutiérrez Rubio".) Dale Arnett 00:20, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Shouldn't we use proper accent marks in the name of the article like with César Cuauhtémoc González?--Darren Jowalsen 01:27, August 19, 2005 (UTC)

Retirement
It is rumored on WWE.com that on Friday night Smackdown in Milwauke to announce his retirment. 71.251.247.223 02:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I heard it too, from my french teater although its not enough evidence to put on Rubberchix 17:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Ur french teacher? Thats pretty weird

ECW Finishing Move?
If the 619 wasn't his finishing move in ECW, then what was?


 * I believe it was the Hurricanrana. Perry 17:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Actually, I believe it was the West Coast Pop, if my memory serves properly. Darryl Hamlin 17:25, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The West Coast Pop is a Springboard Hurricanrana which Rey has used in ECW but most of the time he used a Hurricanrana or Top Rope Hurricanrana, so you are both right.--Racer38 15:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Hall of Fame
eddie guererro was the best wrestler thir was

On WWE's website, is picture 30 in the photo gallery Rey unmasked? It certaintly looks like him, and the outfit he wore. Thanks. 70.111.250.151 14:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes it's him. --Naha|(talk) 17:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

What picture 30? Could you post a link?70.161.98.54 01:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

New Trivia
67.141.243.61 04:06, 3 April 2006 (UTC) Someone added some new trivia to the article dedicated to Rey Mysterio on this site...I'm just wondering how true they are or if they should be worded more correctly. There's no doubt Rey is the shortest World Heavyweight Champion in history...but I'm not sure about the lightest. We have to take in account David Arquette (unfortunately) but he was a World Heavyweight Champion, and probably is around or lighter than Rey Mysterio. Any thoughts?


 * I'd put Arquette's weight around 180-190 lbs., just from his build and height. Darryl Hamlin 17:36, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Where's Rey's personal information? It was on here and now it's not.Why? Thanks. User:MgHoneyBee Apr.4, 2006.

How tall is Ray this article has him listed at both 5'6 and 5'3..... Darkie

ReyRey is 5'6" Although He Debuted at 5'4"

It all depends on what you count as the World Heavyweight Championship, do we count just WWE versions or are we counting all World Championships in history? The Legendary One 04:03, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Request Lock
Of late people have been adding things like 'I love Rey' and 'I don't care what anyone says he is not leeching off Eddie memory' to this article. So I'd like to request a lock or something on this cause those sorts of things really have no place in an article. Night Bringer April 8


 * I echo those sentiments, as I just had to clean up this article from those same comments. They were placed in between words in an otherwise properly written article.  One appeared in his WWE career section, the other appeared in his title history in the spot where it described how his tag title reign ended with a victory from Harlem Heat.  D2001dstanley 00:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Mixed Reaction?
I didn't watch Mania but surely the reason Rey got booed was he stopped the ref from seeing Orton tap out. As for the next Smackdown! seemed like the pretty average 'oh man no pinfall' reaction to me. And sure Rey is using Eddie a little, but it's started to taper off and it's to be expected cause they really were great friends in life. Night Bringer


 * As a person who watched WM22, he was booed 4 minutes into the match, long before holding the ref. It started with a pretty dead entrance and started again with his first offense on Angle. Perry 23:08, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


 * For a reason as to why, see "smark". Blacklist 06:46, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I have a feeling that most fans won't accept him as a world champion. I certainly have trouble with it. I know it's all choreographed and all, I'm not trying to spark some big debate or anything like that, but I just have trouble with it for a couple of reasons, hence his run with the title will probably be a short one.

Reason one: He might very well be the smallest wrestler in professional wrestling history to hold a major world title in professional wrestling. I'm not sure about his height, since a wrestler's actual height can be hard to discover due to different sources reporting different heights, but I've heard him listed between 5'3" and 5'6" and at WM22, I believe he was listed at weighing 165 pounds. So, he's somewhere between 5'3" and 5'6" and weighs somewhere between 165 and 175 pounds and he's the World Heavyweight Champion. Something just doesn't click with a man weighing well under 200 pounds holding a "Heavyweight" title. He's very talented in the ring; has lots of flashy moves, is very athletic and agile, but his size makes it difficult to see how the WWE could pull of the whole David vs. Goliath routine when all of his title defenses could fall under that category. In a nutshell, lots simply won't accept him or really want him to hold onto the title for long because he's simply too small for it to be "believable" for him to take on other wrestlers twice his size. Not to say that he doesn't deserve it and that he hasn't paid his dues, but it's just too far out of what's traditionally accepted for pro wrestling.

Reason two: While he's very talented in the ring, lots of flash movies, very athletic and agile, he has poor mic skills. I can't recall a successful champion that hasn't been able to work a crowd in the microphone, despite having less wrestling ability that a wrestler like Rey. Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, The Rock, and Triple H are some of the few that fall into that category. They're bigger, stronger, much slower, and can't perform many of Rey's moves due to their superior size. However, they have a level of charisma and skills at working a crowd are a huge part of why they've had staggeringly successful wrestling careers. Hulk Hogan never could wrestle his way out of a paper bag. A wrestler could train to be a pro wrestler for a month and possess greater technical wrestling skill than Hulk Hogan even at his physical peak. But, Hogan could, and still can, work a crowd like nobody's business. He hit in the right place and at the right time in America and he'd have to be considered the biggest star in pro wrestling history.

I must disagree the fight and high number of moves Mysterio possesses Keyfabe wise makes him quite viable as champion. As he doesn't give up that easily, and can counter a high number of moves with his own. Besides you have to remember they call it the World Heavyweight Championship because they have two titles not because it's exclusively meant to be for heavyweights. I accept Rey as champ I just don't think he'll hold the title for a long time but the least we can do is enjoy it while it lasts as it'll be entertaining. Night Bringer

I can't find it entertaining because I just can't buy into it. As I said, it's not just the moves or the athleticism, it's the entire persona. Nothin' personal against him, I'll just never accept the guy. To a certain degree, physical size counts in any sport no matter what it is and Rey simply doesn't have it. I know all about the fact that they have two titles, but it just sounds funny to think of a 165 pound man as holding a "Heavyweight" championship in any sport. As far as I know, Rey is the first wrestler to hold a major "Heavyweight" title and be under 200 pounds. Rey, against men labeled as giants or powerhouses like Batista, Mark Henry, The Undertaker, etc. is just too big of a mismatch physically to simply look over. I remember the whole giant killer angle he worked back in WCW where he defeated several giant men, including Kevin Nash. As I recall, it didn't go over well with fans because they simply didn't buy it. 206.28.60.106 http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/underdog

Has he fought a competitor like that yet in the WWE for the title? No. Wait until Rey has to face a power house and see how the WWE portrays it then make up your mind about if you like it or not. Although I must admit I can't ever see Rey pulling off a 'clean' win against say Big Show, Mark Henry, Taker, Kane or the Great Khali. And if they tried it I wouldn't believe it. But I can see him beating people more his size, even Batista. Let's say Batista goes for the Batista Bomb Rey counters it into the West Coast Pop, and down goes Batista. It's perfectly plausiable. Night Bringer

In case you haven't noticed, Batista isn't exactly a shrimp. What his exact size is, I'm not really sure because different sources say different things. I'd put him about 6'5" and at least 300 pounds of solid muscle. So he has roughly a foot in height and probably close to double Rey's body weight. It just doesn't really add up to me, I'm sorry but it just doesn't. He's simply too small to be World Heavyweight Champion, in my opinion. He just can't compete physically with a good deal of the top contenders for the title. Odin&#39;s Beard

If he can get Henry down with a bulldog then he can take out Batista with a West Coast Pop. I mean in the match with the Great Khali he was crushed cause it was set up to be a squash match to enhance the Great Khali before judgement day and to further this whole Rey getting beaten to a pulp before his match with JBL to make him even more of an underdog. Night Bringer

We all know that the WWE can set up angles and storylines allowing any wrestler to beat another. That's not the point that people are trying to get out about the situation. Rey has certainly recieved a mixed reaction as to his reign as champion. The live crowd's reaction to him during his last several matches on Smackdown with Khali and Mark Henry have shown as much. Rey truly shines against other workers that rely on technical skill, speed, and agility rather than size and strength. Lots of fans simply don't buy into the angle or idea of Rey wrestling opponents more than a foot taller and 100, 150, 200 pounds, or more and winning. It's just my opinion, but he's too small to hold the World Heavyweight Championship. It's like the Big Show or Khali winning the Cruiserweight title. Odin&#39;s Beard

Does anyone remember the old saying "it's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight of the dog"? I think that's what the WWE is doing with Rey. From their POV, you don't honestly have to weigh 200+ lbs. and be over six feet tall to become a "heavyweight" champion. Rey has to prove to the fans that he is worthy of the title by defending it every night no matter how tall or heavy his opponents are.I don't mind seeing Rey as the champ. As long as he puts up a great title match against his opponents that the fans will enjoy,the WWE will keep him as a champ on the Smackdown! brand.What's more important in wrestling, mic skills or wrestling skills? Mic skills won't help much when it comes to defending titles. Mysterio has been given one hell of a push from the company ever since Eddie Guerrero died and, in my opinion it, looks like he's handling it quite well. He isn't being booed as much as John Cena is on RAW.Vic729

I've always been a huge fan of Rey, and if he is getting a bonafide mixed reaction like Cena on RAW in early 2006, then it deserves mention in this article. HOWEVER, this article/talk page has nothing to do with YOUR beliefs about Mysterio being a believable champion. Him losing a squash to Khali and getting manhandled by Henry is WWE booking, not Rey being wuss. Sure, Rey does lack something in the way of mic skills, but he's no where NEAR as bad as say Lashley, Shelton or Haas. So until this becomes a serious thing lets leave it alone for now. And to anyone who doesnt believe Rey as champ, keep your panties on, he'll lose the title at the Bash or Summerslam and Batista will resume his run at the top. Cheers, Dubbya9 19:24, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Well now that Rey has lost the title, god only knows why they're pushing Booker at the moment, maybe we can stop hearing about how "Mysterio is too small to be taken seriously" etc etc. Hmm?! Night Bringer 11:04, 26 July 2006 (GMT +10)

I disagree on him not being right for a World Heavyweight title, heavyweight is an open term, anyone can compete for it, size doesn't matter, weight doesn't matter, the word is really just added there to make a title seem more important, if boxing associations and other wrestling promotions wanted to they could just call their world title "The Title". I hated Rey's reign as world champ, mainly because it was so poorly booked and they used Eddie to ride on with it, they had a couple of "overcoming the odds" defenses that really didn't lend any credibility to him as champion, and his win-loss record as champion was very bad. I can't blame Rey for it though, they could have made him a true champion, but his reign was poorly booked on the WWE's part, if I had to say, he'll probably come back and be in cruiserweight title contention and in the future possibly transition back to world title contention, and obviously they're going to have to book him better, he has the speed, moves, agility and many advantages that could make it credible. TonyFreakinAlmeida 06:14, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Rey Unmasked
Do we really have to have the picture of Rey without his mask on? I really think that picture ruins the mystery behind a masked wrestler. I would like to remove that photo if it's ok. --Killswitch Engage 20:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)Killswitch Engage


 * I tend to agree with this. P.S. Your signature is still messed up, the extra Killswitch Engage is still at the end (i.e. - your name appears twice in the signature and the latter apperance looks as though it is unintended). --Naha|(talk) 15:25, 24 April 2006

(UTC)
 * i concur all the way.maybe we could put like a spoiler warning or something similar?-i dont know what my i.p. address is.

He wrestled without a mask for several years in WCW, if we stay strictly to Lucha Libre there is no mystery left. Anyway, Wikipedia is about being factually accurate, not trying to maintain kayfabe and mystery that ended over 5 years ago. --Kiltman67 19:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok I concur to that point, but WWE has never really showed him without a mask in his carrer in it except for at the EG (R.I.P) tribute show where he pulled of his mask but had his face down. I just feel that the photo ruined what WWE is trying to do in keeping the mystery around Rey. And on the point of it, Rey has aged 5 years, and that can be a lot. I would think that Rey would look older and that being why WWE had him wear his mask. If Rey is like some masked wrestlers, he probobly wears the mask in public too so he can protect his identity. I hope I am not frustrating people with my answers.User:Killswitch Engage

I'm sure the photo does ruin the mystery that WWE is trying to create but Wikipedia isn't here to do PR for WWE. If he'd never been unmasked and perhaps someone found a candid picture of him maskless then it could be argued that the use of that image is superfluous since it's the kind of thing that belongs on a fan site but since he lost the mask it's perfectly fair to post a picture of his face since there's pictures of other wrestlers at different stages of their career. I would assume that had he not signed for WWE then Rey probably wouldn't be wearing the mask as I think it's considered disrespectful within Lucha Libre to put your mask back on after losing it. --Kiltman67 16:53, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure if the 'three times' Rey has been unmasked should stay. Yes the mask came off during the match but it was accidental and was put back on right away. His face was never shown to the cameras either. I would revert the comment but I think it would require agreement first. SimonD 17:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

The new picture, is just him with no mask! it has nothing to do with the Article, which is about SuperBrawl 81.110.2.1 17:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Mysterio's Religon?
i think that Mysterio's religon is Catholic,and he says its catholic on myspace.but someone keeps putting that he is Roman Catholic.is there a way to find out for sure?

The only way to really find out is asking him, but it's a little impractical. I suppose it would be speculative but he most likely will be Roman Catholic as I believe only 2% of Catholics aren't Roman Catholic and if I'm right most of that 2% are in North Africa. --Kiltman67 19:32, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

for now i will trust his myspace...67.185.150.130

I don't quite know how MySpace works, so it's possible when you choose your religion you're given a list of options rather then being free to enter your own and perhaps Roman Catholic wasn't on the list. I guess it's best so stick with Catholic since at least you can provide a source (not quite sure how reputable it is though) --Kiltman67 04:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

THE OFFICIAL NAME FOR THE RELIGION IS "CATHLIC" NOT "ROMAN CATHLIC" - MYSTERIO IS CATHLIC - I AM 100% SURE WITH THAT SKRIBUL 19:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

The major religion in Mexico is Roman Catholic and I've read else where that Rey is Roman Catholic. Btw unsigned User, It is considered to be shouting if you type with all caps. SimonD 17:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Sorry I did not realise this =S SKRIBUL 19:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

When people say catholic, they usually mean Roman Catholic and the most common religion in latinos is Roman Catholisism.

The last trivia thing
It is completely messed up and a bunch of facts are jumbled together. First of all he's the 3rd hispanic wrestler to win a WWE World title and that's just the begging of it.--Trick man01 23:30, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

I took care of it; it doesn't belong there anyway since the information is already in the body of the article. Thanks, --Naha|(talk) 01:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

How many signature moves are needed
I have noiticed that there are a lot of signature moves ofr Mysterio's page is it possible for some to be deleted, because it is getting silly!

who put sd results up before the show cmon people i was told we were not allowed to do that so i expected there not to be sd results before the show!!!!!!!--Valf 20:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Great Khali Squash Match
Stop making a seperate section for the squash match against the Great Khali it was a SINGLE match there's no need to have a detailed description all that has to be said is what I keep reverting it to. And as likely as it is that his opponent will be Kane next week it hasn't been confirmed so we can't post that yet. It could just as easily be JBL himself or say a handicap match against MNM or Finlay and Regal etc etc don't post stuff that isn't confirmed. Night Bringer

too long?
it says on the edit article thing that it may be longer than preferable-how do we trim it down without removing anything important?67.185.0.106 14:59, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

just so you know
rey DOES occaionally wear a cell phone earpeice instad of his mask.i read on si wroters recap of wm week and he said that in the apperance for the kid literacy contest 'rey was probably hardest to recognise because he had traded his custom mask for a cell phone earpeice.''heres the link:http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/arash_markazi/04/03/hot.read/index.html

What do U guys think of the rey vs. sabu match one night stand

this isnt a message board,this is just for edits to the article.The pink panther 15:14, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Rey unmasking himself
When Smackdown came to the UK in october 2003 in an event called WWE Passport to Pain.At the end of the event all the face wrestlers including Rey,Eddie and chris benoit are ceebrating in.Rey Then takes his mask of and gives it to Eddie who then wears it but rey uses his t-shirt to hide his face.Rossyboy10 18:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

He should just take the mask back off, according to lucha libre tradition he should have never put it back on. It's very disrespectful to put your mask back on after you lose it in a match. TJ Spyke 00:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

This means that rey has unmasked himself 3 times in the WWE Rossyboy10 15:06, 15 June 2006 (UTC).

rey said in a sep. '05 interview with either the sun or ign,i forget which,that he wrestles with his mask on even in mexico and they still respect him.

World HEAVYWEIGHT Champion
Has anyone else noticed the WWE now call Rey Mysterio the World Champion as opposed to the World HEAVYWEIGHT Champion? --sonicKAI 12:40, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I've noticed it, but haven't really thought much about it before. It might be because it's kind of silly to refer to a 165 pound wrestler a heavyweight. Odin&#39;s Beard 01:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Personally I think it's cause when they restarted ECW they re-activated the "ECW World Heavyweight Championship" so calling Rey's title the "World Championship" might be an effort to avoid confunsion. That said it might be the whole weight issue, but if that's the case we're only going to know for sure once someone like Batista wins the title and they revert to WHC or remain with WC. Night Bringer 23:48, 29 June 2006 (GMT +10)

picture of rey from ECW/WCW
I think a picture of rey in his old ECW/WCW outfit should be added since he looked so different back then.

Infobox
could someone well versed in the Pro Wrestling Project rebuild rey's infobox? The World Champ deserves better! Cheers, Dubbya9

lol.if i could id repost it.i am snape.i killed innocent bugs. 05:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Yes, yes, we realize that someone out there in Internet land loves Rey and doesn't care what anyone says, "he is not leeching off Eddie memory." Very good. Now stop vandalizing the page. Longshot1980 01:58, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

thats the ip of someone i know making those edits,ill tell em to knock it off.also some people have been messing up his height,calling him jacob,and adding 'death spanking.'this needs to be semiprotected,as its mostly ips.i am snape.i killed innocent bugs. 05:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

This page needs to be locked ASAP
Way too much vandalism, we've had 3 or 4 attacks today alone. Can we request a lock until all the vandals are banned or something? --Rake 07:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

ive requested a semi protect like 20 times and they keep saying that there isnt enough resent vandalism to justify it.i am snape.i killed innocent bugs. 17:33, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the things that were added/changed were TRUE. Didja ever think of that? ^^) the newest vandal, using my sister's computer without her knowing!!!!i DEMAND my own section under the wikipedia vandal page. 00:69 Matemberurarytobervember, 2019!!! (UTCC)

Rey Heel trun I though Rey was the heel because didnt he use eddie death to win the world title {supermike}

What are you talking about? this section is about a semi-protect lock, not wether or not he is a heel. FYI, he's not. Cheers, Dubbya9 18:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Images
It's fairly ridiculous for this page not to have a picture of Gutierrez without his mask, epecially given that he wrestled unmasked for several years. McPhail 16:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I know WWE wants us to forget he ever lost his mask(just like they want us to forget a lot of other stuff), but he lost his mask in WCW and wrestle without it for quite some time. I'm sure some people would like to see what he looks like without his mask. TJ Spyke 16:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I do not want to see Rey without his mask. That would be horrible. And his career would plummet too.Killswitch Engage

Could somebody upload a new picture of Rey? He's no longer the World Heavyweight Champion. TJ Spyke 00:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Already done. Leor Natanov 00:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

well,maybe for the top yeah but hmmm..for the world heavyweight champion section,ect it seems relevant.i am snape.i killed innocent bugs. 07:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Stabbed In The Back should't that be about how rey stabbed Guerrero family in the back user: super mike

I deleted the picture with chavo guererro hitting mysterio with a chair because that'll upset the fans of rey mysterrio so who did this??No more JBL


 * OMG I cant belive that pic of Rey with no mask is on this page!!! Thats really upsetting... I cryed when I saw that pic... SKRIBUL 08:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)


 * the page is for Oscar Gutierrez so it should have an unmasked pic specialy since Wikipedia isn't kayfabe -PrinceBee

height revert issue
people keep reverting the height.and while the heights listed on the official profiles are exagerated,its what we should go with.so i say we need to put the warning to not change the height or weight back on the page.

This is stupid!!
Ok. I dont get it. People have continued to screw around with Rey's page until the point that we have had to come to a compromise with his height. Whatever happened to not giving in to vandals? I think we are just giving them what they want, a reaction of some sort. Isnt there a way we can make the height 5'6 instead of 5'4 1/2 and just lock the article? Or automatically BLOCK any users/IP's that do change the height? I dont think the vandals deserve a compromise at all for screwing up this article!! They deserve to be ignored! Rey Mysterio's height shouldnt be incorrect for the sake of some stupid, obsessed vandals!! I'm sick of them messing with this page!! ARRRGH!!!--Cookie 02:39, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree. I am 100% positive that rey is 5'6 and that when He began wrestling at the age of 14 he was 5'4... SKRIBUL 08:35, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

chill,cuke.lol.;=)The Pink Panther 21:24, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Well seriously. If we come to a compromise on the height, we are giving in. Which isnt cool, right? It's just telling vandals that if they vandalize enough they'll get their way. =P (and 'panther, i am chilled, lol.--Cookie 02:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Rey's height is 5'6. He is definately not 5'3. Where can you prove he is 5'3?Jayorz12 04:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Dave Meltzer has stated that Rey is 5"2. I'll try to find the post.MackyMackn 03:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

do u really think he looks 5'6 to the divas? or howabout tht 5'7 referee(the blond guy on smackdown an hes really short) plus if he were 5'6 he wuld be as tall as eddie guerro, but eddie nearly has a head on him, eddie is 5'8, rey mysterio is 5'3-5'4

World Heavyweight Champ
Could someone re-add the World Heavyweight Championship in the titles and accomplishments section? I'm not sure of the dates myself. Cheers, Dubbya9 00:43, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Signature moves
I'm quite sure "Dropping the Dime" is the springboard leg drop...can anyone show me info to the contrary? Tromboneguy0186 15:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

frog splash
could this be considered a finisheras he uses it to end matches? Rubberchix 17:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Altough he rarely uses it, when he does use it, he uses it as a finishing capacity, so yes it should be considered a finisher. JamX3K


 * hes not big enuff to use the frog splash, hes close to the right build at his height but not good enuff, if he reaches 190lbs then he culd do it

Springboard Crossbody & Sunset Flip reversal
Someone attempted to add in the Springboard Crossbody and the Sunset Flip Powerbomb reversal to Mysterio's move list. They didn't add in links to the moves and had them bolded. So I took the liberty of finishing what they started. JamX3K

ReyMysterio.com
For anyone who is wondering Rey's website is down so that it follows the storyline of his injury of last week. It won't be back up until he returns to WWE from knee reconstructive surgery. Jayorz12 23:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Signature Moves
Air Mysterio (Hurricanrana to a cornered opponent, with the assistance of a steel chair)

HAHAHAHAHHA
guess what vandals,|  you win!!!!!!! the whole rey mysterio height/weight edit war issue is now listed at wikipedia lamest edit wars.congrats,vandals!The Pink Panther 05:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Give Me A Break!
Rey Mysterio is definitely 5'6". How the hell can they claim that he is 5'3"? There is no evidence and proof for that! When he won the WWE Tag Team Championship with Eddie Guerrero, they were just about same-heighted and Eddie was 5'7(+1/2)". Since there is such a controversy over the subject then why don't they send someone to measure him? This would solve the mystery and prove that Oscar is 5'6".

trust me when i give you this advice:

lather,rinse,repeat.

The Pink Panther 17:02, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

dudes he is 5'3-5'4, honestly do u think 5'6 is tht small, maria is 5'6 an shes slightly taller than him, an there r other pics of him with otha ppl an he is tiny

Grew up watching steiner?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0FirgfXs6rQ&mode=related&search= bbobbly or tony said that rey grew up watching steiner and perfected the frankensteiner.i dont believe its true but is it?--Psychosismask 20:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC) Rey Mysterio is coming out of surgery today. i home he beats chavo gurreros sore ass! 619!619!619!619...!!!


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

don't move. &mdash; Nightst a  llion  (?) 10:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Requested Move to Rey Mysterio

 * – Oscar Gutierrez → Rey Mysterio – He is currently universally recognized as Rey Mysterio, and this would conform to other professional wrestlers like Shawn Michaels and Stone Cold Steve Austin - a link could be provided at the top for those looking for Rey Misterio, Sr. Please note this is DIFFERENT than the previous request to "Rey Mysterio, Jr."  He is currently by far the most well known "Rey Mysterio" and I would bet almost everyone typing Rey Mysterio (especially since the Sr. spells it Misterio) is looking for Oscar.  Ironically, "Rey Misterio, Sr." is the other page title, and yet is NOT his real name either. Bssc81 16:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~ 


 * Support The wrestler does not have to "cross over" into other forms of entertainment with his ring name for it to be his Wikipedia name - see examples: Shawn Michaels, Rob Van Dam and Ric Flair, to name a few. And if "Paul Levesque" can be titled Triple H, then Oscar Gutierrez, an even lesser known real name, really should be Rey Mysterio. Bssc81 16:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Do all the wrestling articles need to be the same? Yes. Should they be under the wrestler's stage names? No. This is quite simple, several wrestlers have had many different psydonyms/stage names/gimmics.  How do you know which one to choose? "The most well known name" is not good enough, because that is relative and subjective.  The only way to make all the articles the same is to list them under their real/given name and make all of their various gimmick names redirect to their real name.  Its also "more encyclopedic" this way. --Naha|(talk) 07:05, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment - If anything is to change, I would rather see all the wrestler articles changed to direct to their real names. --Naha|(talk) 07:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Response to Naha: The "most well known name" is not subjective. Just look around and see how many times "Rey Mysterio" vs. "Rey Misterio Jr." or "Oscar Gutierrez" shows up on Wikipedia.  It's an objective calculation.  Also, I agree with you that there should be one standard for wrestlers' names.  However, as I mentioned, we have already set a precedent with the likes of Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels and Rob Van Dam (none of which are their real names), not to mention the "cross over guys" like Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock (entertainer) and Triple H.  Based on that, changing this page to Rey Mysterio is a no brainer. Bssc81 17:03, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Response to Bssc81: Yes, it is subjective. And I'm not just talking about Rey Mysterio; you have to look at the whole picture. If even one wrestler has more than one gimmmick, the only way to make all the wrestler articles consistant throughout the project is to use their real names for the article namespace.  Also, I think you are a bit confused about this "precedent" you keep referring to:  There are just as many, if not more wrestler articles where their real name is used for the article: Paul Wight (Big Show), Glen Jacobs (Kane), Mark Calaway (The Undertaker), Adam Copeland (Edge), Curt Hennig (Mr. Perfect), Joanie Laurer (Chyna), Dustin Runnels (Goldust), Andrew Martin (Test), David Bautista (Batista), Monty Sopp (Billy Gunn), Ray Traylor (The Big Boss Man), Solofa Fatu (Rikishi/Kishi), Rodney Anoa'i (Yokozuna), Chris Chavis (Tatanka) and many more. The only reason I list these is to illustrate that the only precedent that the WikiProject Professional wrestling has set, is one of confusion and disorganization when it comes to naming the articles. This is not to put down the project, I just think it needs some leadership and organization. The project needs to be streamlined in many ways, and I believe the only logical way to do so in regards to wrestler articles it is use their real names. As of right now, I don't see myself changing my viewpoint on this, but one way or another, consistancy needs to prevail. Perhaps we should move this discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling to get more input? As popular as Gutierrez is, I don't know how many people will see our conversation here. --Naha|(talk) 19:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Response: Hey, I agree with you with regards to consistency. I did not understand why Triple H or "The Rock (entertainer)" created as the page names.  On the other hand, I absolutely see why Rob Van Dam and Ric Flair were.  I think in each of the cases you listed, all of the "character names" were ambiguous.  At least, a lot of them are (ie Undertaker, Edge, Test, Batista, Yokozuna, Big Show, Kane, etc.)  The others, well, the problem is that they weren't necessarily the "best known" name of the individual (eg Goldust, Billy Gunn, Rikishi).  In Mysterio's case, there is virtually no ambiguity - Rey Mysterio, like Ric Flair and Rob Van Dam, refers to only one thing or person. All that said, I'm all for "being bold" and figuring out a way to conform the likes of The Rock and Triple H back to their original names. The problem is, I think Ric Flair, Rob Van Dam, Shawn Michaels and so on have no business being changed. Bssc81 06:08, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Response:Yes, that is probably why they were named that way originally and we have the power to change that and make them all consistant. But if we are to be consistant, either all the gimmick-name articles or, all the real-name articles have to be changed. As long as "Ric Flair" redirects to "Richard Fliehr" and "Triple H" redirects to "Paul Levesque" people will still be able to find the articles easily.
 * Another point I would like to make, is that the use of parenthesis to disambiguate articles about different things that are named the same way, should be used extremly spairingly. In some instances (outside of Wrestling) there is no choice, and parehtnesis have to be used. Wrestler names, however, for the most part (I'm sure there are a few out there that share a name with someone else who is listed in the 'pedia), have the oportunity to utilize the wrestler's real names and do away with the parenthesis. Right now, "The Rock (entertainer)" has to use "(entertainer)" after "The Rock" to disambiguate it from the "The Rock (film)" and they both further have to be disambiged from the radio station and the song of the same name.  If, however, we changed the name of the wrestler article to "Dwayne Douglas Johnson" we could do away with the parenthesis all together.--Naha|(talk) 06:29, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the problem is how far do you take it? Does Angelina Jolie redirect to Angelina Jolie Voight?  Should Tom Cruise redirect to Thomas Cruise Mapother IV?  There are too many examples where I just don't think it makes sense.Bssc81 14:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There is no reason to go that far. In those instances, which are few and far between in the grand scheme of things, you use the parenthesis to distinguish between them. Multiple instances of Tom Cruise would point to a DAB page and you would choose the one you are looking for. I'm not known by my First Middle and Last name. As far as my real name goes, I'm known by a shortened version of my first name, and my last name.  My middle name rarely makes it into the picture unless I am signing a legal document.  This is how all biographical articles should, in theory, be handeled. With their full name listed in bold in the introductory paragraph of the article. Above, I didn't mean to include Dwayne John's middle name, I forgot to remove it when cutting and pasting. --Naha|(talk) 20:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose. In this case, there are too many variations on his ring name to reach a clear consensus on notability. He used "Misterio" when in WCW, and was arguably more famous during that time period. McPhail 17:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose - burn kayfabe - Oscar Gutierrez is his name. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - &lt;*&gt; 05:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Support - for every person who knows him as Oscar Gutierrez, you can find 30 who know him as Rey Mysterio, he's achived fame as Mysterio and should be recognized as such. Cheers, Dubbya9 04:22, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
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Return
Rey returned, not really "returned", but made an apperence on Smackdown! on Febuary 26, 2007. He was going to update us on his condition. He did say that things were moving faster than he could ever hope and that he will be back in the ring soon. But Mr. McManhon interupted him, and then sicked Umaga on him. After Umaga jumped off the tope rope onto Rey's injured knee, Rey was put on a stretcher(sp?) and was taken out of the arena.Gundam94 17:07, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

Title Error
"WCW World Tag Team Championship (3 times) - with Billy Kidman (2), Konnan (1), and Juventud Guerrera (1)". The numbers add to 4. Is the math wrong, or is the list of names wrong? Koberulz 04:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC) -Rey Mysterio held the WCW Tag Team Championship with three seperate wrestlers, but he would be qualified as a "4 Time WCW Tag Team Champion."

Umaga attack
Rey returned to SmackDown! to say that he will be back and his surgery was a success.Umaga came and attacked Mysterio,causing him to fall.There were many false thoughts of a re-injury.There was no real further injury done to Mysterio's knee.

Return and GAB
Rey Mysterio will make a scheduled return on the June 9th, 2007th edition of RAW in a 6 man tag team match teaming with John Cena, and Bobby Lashley vs. King Booker, Randy Orton, and Umaga The Great American Bash will feature Double Main Events: Bobby Lashley vs. John Cena for the WWE Championship and Rey Mysterio vs. Edge for the World Heavyweight Championship  J.C. 06:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

June 9th was a month ago and Rey mysterio will make his return soon. The Great Kahli is the new World Heavyweight and will face Batista and Kane in a triple threat match at the Great American Bash.

Benoit's doctor giving him steroids?
its all a lie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.160.199.169 (talk) 04:05, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

It is believed that Rey Mysterio may have received steroids from Dr. Astin, the former doctor of Chris Benoit

This is in the article under the 2007 sub section. Anything to support this or is it just weak vandalism? First I've heard of it.

I've read this...not sure how reliable, though. Gossip site TMZ.com "has learned that current WWE SmackDown wrestler Rey Mysterio (real name: Oscar Gutierrez) and former WWE wrestler Mark Jindrak, are the two other wrestlers named in an indictment against Dr. Phil Astin" according to a new report on the site (thanks to Ellie for sending a link to the story to us). This jibes with previous reports that prescriptions were written by Dr. Astin for wrestlers named "OG" and "MJ." Here are the specific indictments, from an earlier news post:

- April 2004: provided percocet, vicoprofen, and xanax to "M.J. in Carrollton"

- July 2004: provided percocet, lorcet, and xanax to "M.J. in Carrollton"

- October 2004: provided percocet, lorcet, vicoprofen, and xanax to "M.J. in Carrollton"

- March 2005: provided percocet to "O.G. in Carrollton"

- March 2005: provided percocet and lorcet to "M.J. in Carrollton"

- July 2005: provided adderall, percocet, and lorcet to "M.J. in Carrollton"

- September 2005: provided percocet and lorcet to "O.G. in Carrollton"  KinkyLilBlackDress 09:59, 7 July 2007 (UTC)KinkyLilBlackDress

Injury match
I cannot quite remember where I've heard it or read it or what have you, but I recall taking in some information that the match with Chavo used to explain Rey's disappearance was a "Loser Leaves Smackdown" match, yet in the article it says he lost an "I Quit" match. I recall the stipulation being that to lose, you had to say the aforementioned two words ("I quit"), and considering the fact that promos just aired last night for his return on Smackdown, I doubt a bit at my question: did the match also have the stipulation that the loser of the match would leave Smackdown? Considering the promos, I doubt it, and I question if this is an error on the part of the source that I read/watched it from or if it's an error in the article and should be included (or, even then, if it should not be included if it happened and was retconned or forgotten by WWE). - Ken Xiraka 14:43, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

return
isnt he returning at gab? why is there no mention in the article?

that would be just a rumor

did he return in the dark match of smackdown ? 69.207.179.119 17:05, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Why the hell would Batista, Finlay and MVP be wrestling in dark matches??? Mjtwh 22:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

the article says it was 69.207.179.119 00:10, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

So? That doesn't mean it's reliable! 74.101.41.27 15:53, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

well it was a dark match!! 69.207.179.119 13:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

I read the SMACKDOWN spoilers for this week's show (August 3 in the United States), and during the show, it was announced that Rey Mysterio will face Chavo Guerrero at Summerslam. Unless he appears before then, I would expect Rey's return to be Summerslam. Source: http://nodq.com/wwe/187945995.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.14.170 (talk • contribs)

2007
"Rey's scheduled return was on mid-March, but because of Umaga and Vince's attack, his return will be the month of summerslam where he will most likely be fighting Vince McMahon" is speculation. I've removed the part about a possible match with Vince McMahon. Koberulz 15:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Rey might go to ecw as a spin off of his umaga attack as the ecw champ. Fans want Rey to return to Smackdown! because he is know as the underdog of wrestling and is the greatest wrestler of all time.

I changed rey's 2007 part to:full in ring Return date unknown, okay?Hbkfan320 08:23, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No. Leave it off. Darrenhusted 10:29, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

The 619 picture
Dont you think they should take the picture of the 619 off and replace it with someone other then the late great eddie guerrero

Why whats wrong with it?

Just because Eddie Guerrero is dead that does not mean the picture should not have him featured in it. It is not meant to show any disrespect to him if that is how you feel. It is simply just showing the move. Tywddle 12:29, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

rey mysterio rocks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Garbo1423 (talk • contribs).

TNA
Why does the article's intro say Rey's signed to TNA? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Just someone trying to be funny. Did it happen again? I already reverted it once before. Th 2005 03:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

SummerSlam
Ok i personnally think that the info about him having three SS matches against a Guerrero is a important piece of trivia. I want to discuss this. Does anyone agree?Wrestlinglover420 16:45, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Are you going to go through and tell me how many times he has faced every wrestler at evry PPV (he faced Kidman at Souled Out once, he faced Dean Malenko at Halloween Havoc once etc). No, so leave out he faced Chavo twice and Eddie once, he also faced Matt Hardy at Wrestlemania once but are you adding that? It does not fit with the MoS for bios, leave it out unless you can reference it then feel free to add it in. Darrenhusted 17:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The fact that he will have had three matches at SS against the Guerreros is relevant trivia. It has nothing to do with how many matches or whatever your rambling about. You dont make the consensus.Wrestlinglover420 18:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

You need to read WP:TRIVIA. Darrenhusted 18:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)


 * This is really not notable at all. --Dave. 20:36, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Trivia or not, Vickie Gurerro made the match at SS for Rey Mysterio. Isn't that his return match? If so, it should be noted as such, and not ignored. --Stotheb2010 13:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * after the match occured. Diivoo 14:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

move to raw
is rey mysterio moving to raw?  Sub!  01:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Considering promos airing this past Friday night, I do not think he's moving to RAW. I actually read somewhere about a plan that might happen that he be facing Edge at The Great American Bash for the World Heavyweight Championship, but I'm not sure how likely that is (nor do I think Rey would win, since I read that Edge had been told he was in for a long title reign, like 'Taker was promised before he got injured). As I've read, the plans were originally for him to work a program with Vince at either the Bash or at, like, SummerSlam, perhaps stemming from how Vince and Umaga attacked him when he made his post-surgery appearance, but recent events dictate that this is not going to happen. Unless plans change last-minute (which is always a possibility), Rey is staying on Smackdown. As it is, I think that if they wanted to move Rey to RAW, they'd have done it during the draft, but even then I don't think it'd have happened. Too many faces on RAW and not enough heels (Especially main event-level heels), which is why they got Booker, Snitsky, and Ken. - Ken Xiraka 01:56, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Right now, SmackDown! needs more Main-Eventers because their roster is really weak. Rey is scheduled to make a return to WWE on the July 9th edition of RAW, where he'll team up with Bobby Lashley, and John Cena vs. Umaga, King Booker, and Randy Orton.


 * Smackdown may need more main-eventers, but with RAW as the flagship show, they need the better roster right there. Smackdown could use some more main-eventers, but RAW has to be consistent with their talent as it's more important to WWE than Smackdown is. Perhaps Chuck Palumbo, who re-debuted in WWE just this past Friday, might be rushed up to the top card if he isn't squashing lower-carders. He seems talented enough and he's a ten-year ring veteran... With Rey returning, though, things should look to be awesome for Smackdown again. We'll just have to see what the future holds. *Shrug*


 * This is all irrelevant. Please don't use this as a forum to speculate. --Dave. 13:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)




 * On the match that Rey is said to be in, isn't that a dark match (dark match main event, considering those involved), though? True, it would be his return match, but if it's a dark match, then it wouldn't be televised. - Ken Xiraka 05:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think the 6 man tag match is gonna be a dark match...it's a main event, and aren't dark matches usually the lowest on the card?? With Undertaker and Rey coming back to smackdown, i think it'll be equal ( almost ).


 * Eh... whoops '^^ Apologies, Dave. - Ken Xiraka 04:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Surely Mysterio has to return to Smackdown! due to the fact he is a cruiserweight and the cruiserweight division is on Smackdown! Benzin 14:59, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Just to clarify about the dark match issue, there's usually at least one dark match AFTER the taping takes place. It's a match done just for the live crowd that usually involves the top heels & faces at the time and is a loose continuation of storylines. Th 2005 02:45, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

but Rey often wrestles with bigger opponents like Mark Henry and JBL (though he rarely wins). So theres no reason he has to be with the cruiserweight division

Red Eye
Tommrow Rey will be on Red Eye with Greg Gutfeld. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Should this be reverted?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oscar_Gutierrez&diff=next&oldid=153610427

I'm not sure whether or not it should be reverted back. Th 2005 20:38, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

It is one of the few things on this bio with a reference, it could do with trimming, but I've reverted it back in for editing. Darrenhusted 21:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

ALERT!!: Rey MISTERIO JR.
This Rey Mysterio is the nephew of Rey Mysterio Sr., but Rey Mysterio Sr.'s son is Rey M"i"sterio Jr., similar to WWE's Rey Mysterio Jr., but its another Rey Misterio, and WWE is trying to get him to come to WWE.

I know its confusing but its like this,

Rey Mysterio Sr.> (Uncle Of WWE's Rey Mysterio) (Also Father of Rey Misterio Jr., another Rey Misterio, non related to                  WWE's Mysterio).

I believe there should be a seperate article on Sniors son, or he should be mentioned in WWE's Rey Mysterio article or Seniors article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truko9308 (talk • contribs) 15:46, August 26, 2007 (UTC)


 * First off, yes a seperate article should be made. Also the Misterio jr would be Mysterios Nephew or Cousin or something like that, so the little thing about him not being related to WWEs Mysterio is wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fisha695 (talk • contribs) 21:31, August 26, 2007 (UTC)


 * And just for what it's worth, he usually goes by El Hijo De Rey Misterio (The son of Rey Misterio) to differ himself from Rey Mysterio Jr. Th 2005 01:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)