Talk:Rey Za Burrel

Best pilot?
Why isn't Rey concidered one of "the best pilots of the Cosmic Era"? He was able to hold his own in battle against Kira, who is in the "top 3."

Is Rey an Anti-villain or Anti-Hero
Neither. Edward321 (talk) 05:37, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

No I think he means personality wise, like is his personality a anti-hero or anti-villain.
 * The answer is still neither. Rey is not a protagonist, so he cannot be an anti-hero.  He does not 'pursue undeniably villainous ends, but employs methods that are arguably noble' so he is not an anti- villain, either.  Edward321 (talk) 05:54, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

First off Rey is a anti-villain and if you don't believe me look up the the word anti-villain it means a villain who uses the quality's of villains but for what they believe is a noble cause, Rey uses manipulation and finds people expendable and will get rid of them without mercy and fights to improve the future of humanity so we must consider him and anti villain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.248.221 (talk) 17:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I quoted the definition of anti-villian here on wikipedia. His actions do not match that definition, so Rey is not an anti-villian. Edward321 (talk) 22:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Well look again pal cause your wrong.


 * Please remain civil and sign your posts. The first sentence of anti-villain says - 'An antivillain is a character in a film, drama or literary work who pursues undeniably villainous ends, but employs methods that are arguably noble in order to advance his interests.'  Rey complettely fails that definition on both counts.  Rey's goals are not 'undeniably villainous'; he wants to end war forever.  Nor are his actions 'arguably noble'; Rey is quite willing to frame innocents and perjure himself, and to manipulate and murder friends in order to achieve Durandal's goals.  Edward321 (talk) 22:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Then Rey is an anti hero since as you say, and by the way don't have to be a protagonist to be an anti hero. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.248.221 (talk) 23:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest you read the anti-hero article as well, as it also disagrees with you. That article begins 'In fiction, an antihero is a protagonist whose character and goals are antithetical to classical heroism.'  Rey not a protagonist, nor are his goals antithetical to classic heroism, so he fails to meet the definition on two separate counts. Edward321 (talk) 04:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

What I think I get what your saying Rey does posses similar qualities of an anti-villain as such he posses a good goal however the why he used ways to get them such as manipulation and ruthless killing these are qualities of an anti-hero but he is neither because he is villain but I would have he is a villain with good goal, Right? Tylerwade123 —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:35, 20 October 2008 (UTC).