Talk:Rhea (mythology)

Most ancient etymologists derived Rhea (Ῥέα) by metathesis from ἔρα "ground"
Can someone help me with this, who were the ancient etymologists who claim that Rhea (Ῥέα) derived by metathesis from ἔρα "ground"? must be many as the article claims... the one citation that has there is atleast weird. Are there any other sources? please help and ThanksW5ry3 (talk) 22:23, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
 * This is from the cited article by Hopkinson, p. 176:
 * "Most ancient etymologists derived Ῥέα by metathesis from ''ἔρα, 'ground';3 ...
 * 3 For a full collection of evidence see O. Gruppe, Griechische Mythologie und Religionsgeschichte (Munich 1906) 1524 n. 2."
 * So for the ancient sources you would have to see Gruppe's work in German apparently.
 * Paul August &#9742; 13:14, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Paul August Excellent and thank you very much. I also found at once the full text of Griechische Mythologie und Religionsgeschichte...
 * https://archive.org/stream/bub_gb_T6cUAAAAYAAJ/bub_gb_T6cUAAAAYAAJ_djvu.txt
 * Any help to find Rhea in that German text? Thanks again.W5ry3 (talk) 16:38, 1 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Ah, good, I didn't think to check the Internet Archive, here is a link to the relevant text from Gruppe, p. 1524. Note 2 gives several ancient sources. Paul August &#9742; 16:53, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
 * https://archive.org/stream/griechischemyth03grupgoog/griechischemyth03grupgoog_djvu.txt
 * I think this is different and better text, also looks like he is using Rheia for ::::Rhea, Rheia appears 71 times in that textW5ry3 (talk) 16:57, 1 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Griechische Mythologie und Religionsgeschichte is a mutli-volume work. The two links you give above are (bad) digitized version of the wrong volume. The link I gave above: https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_d6cUAAAAYAAJ/page/n303 is a photographic version of the cited volume. Paul August &#9742; 17:09, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Paul AugustYes you are right, we wrote together in the previous post and I saw your link after. i also found this book, which have similar references, p. 264 This is gonna be harder when I thought since i have hard time to understant the abbreviations of the sourcesW5ry3 (talk) 18:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Definition of 'consorts'
According to the orphic myths Rhea married Zeus after the Titanomachy, yet when I put Zeus in the 'consorts' part of the infobox it was removed because consorts imply long term relationships. However in the Wikipedia pages of other greek mythological figures, even very short flings are included (such as Zeus and Leda). So I'm just curious why it was removed. NeoSIMIAN-Terraform (talk) 09:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I've now restored Zeus as an (Orphic) consort. I was aware that in Orphic literature, Zeus raped Rhea, thereby fathering Persephone/Kore (e.g. see West, The Orphic Poems, p. 73) but I wasn't aware that Zeus ever married her. I see now that he did. Most "flings" would not be considered to be a consort (regardless of what other Wikipedia article might say). Paul August &#9742; 10:47, 7 August 2021 (UTC)