Talk:Rhyl

Skytower- amended date- the opening date was originally 1989 in Wikipedia, but in 2012 the local press quoted a 1993 date and the wikipedia date was amended. I have a couple of photos taken from the skytower in 1990- and it took ages to find a citation (from a 2000 book) to justify correcting the opening date to 1989. No idea where the local press obtained a 1993 date- may refer to plans for the nearby "childrens village theme park" - but as usual the incorrect  date is the one that is now travelling the Internet! 88.97.48.225 (talk)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.97.48.225 (talk) 11:20, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Deleted this "Shame really, because the beach is really great . . . apart from the possibility of radioactive silts which may be accumulating from the Sellafield nuclear plant. (As far as I know the beach has not been tested for radioactive levels or hot spots)." When someone sticks a geiger counter in the sand and it starts ticking loads, then we'll put that in again. PJBeef, 24 April 2004, 10.58 UTC


 * Does following have any bearing on the above. Wikipedia search Irish Sea:

''The Irish Sea has been subject to heavy radioactive contamination by the first British weapons grade 239Pu nuclear production plant and power station at Sellafield, also known as Windscale. (See the Sellafield page about the naming of this site.) An estimated 250 kg of plutonium have been deposited in marine sediments during the first decades of production. Another source of radioactive pollution may be the Dundrennan Range on the Solway Firth. Further north are the Holy Loch (now closed) and Faslane bases, where nuclear submarines were serviced during the cold war. After the Chernobyl disaster, rain containing Cs-137 and other radioactive material fell in the area. The area of the Beaufort's Dyke has been used as a dump for chemical weapons and possibly more nuclear waste.''

Removed reference to the sea being brown due to river sediment. the colour is due to the wave action stirring up the sand and keeping it in suspension, go offshore by a few hundred yards in a boat and you can see the seabed. Tango Whiskey 17 August 2006
 * Removed reference to the original Pavilion being called the Pavilion Theatre. It was only ever known as The Pavilion. Tango Whiskey 28 August 2006

Flagged for NPOV check as several entries on this page are biased opinions rather than fact and almost promotional in nature. Does not have any sources for comments etc. Kid Robbo 12:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Attempted to remove POV and adjust tone of article to be more encyclopaedic. (Anyone like to check before removing tag at top of article?) Also attempted rewrite to remove excessive duplication in Marine Lake/Regeneration sections and merge content.Snowy 1973 (talk) 10:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Name
From the article: "Other unsubstantiated and improbable suggestions have been made that it might derive from the similar sounding "Yr Hill" (as in The Hill) ..."

As a matter of interest, this "unsubstantiated and improbable suggestion" was made by the late Professor Bedwyr Lewis Jones, one of the leading authorities on Welsh place names. Still, what would he know compared to Wikipedia contributors, eh? Cantiorix 11:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Quickly searched for BLJ references to Rhyl but no results, please add and source this if you have any. Otherwise, I have re-contextualised this as problematic due to Rhyl's geography, I get a sense from the original wording that BLJ offered this as a "most likely suggested" in response to an ad-hoc question, rather than an academic theory. Cymrogogoch (talk) 13:12, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Also, this sentence doesn't make any sense at all: "Another theory is that the name Rhyl originates from the Welsh 'Ty yn yr haul' meaning 'House in the sun' written 'Ty'n yr haul' note that the oldest known dwelling is actually called 'Ty'n rhyl' and that the town marketed itself as a resort as 'Sunny Rhyl'." Someone with any idea of what it is supposed to communicate could rewrite it. GavinZac (talk) 04:37, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed in part, the theory is "interesting" and is just as robust as any other. My personal feeling is that a convergence of Yr Haul/ Yr Heul and Yr Rhyl is a noteworthy folk etymology and I have added it as such.Cymrogogoch (talk) 13:12, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Rhyl, as a noisy river?
When I started looking into the name my understanding of the word 'Rhyl' was a possibly archaic or rare and poetic word for a small, noisy river or brook, related to the etymology of the Rhondda rivers (as in the Song My little Welsh home which refers to "The magic music of the Rhyl"). I also thought there were other places (specificly watercourses) named Rhyl or Yr Rhyl in other parts of Wales but the only academic writing I have found refers exclusively to the Denbighshire town.

Was I wrong? Is "the magic music" referring to the Sun Centre? Please let me know if you can help.

Thanks in advance. Cymrogogoch (talk) 13:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Famous People
The Famous People section currently states:

''Mike Peters, singer/songwriter. Member of rock group The Alarm and Dead Men Walking.''

As far as I am aware, Mike Peters is from Prestatyn, as stated on the Wikipedia entry for Prestatyn. Some members of The Alarm were from Rhyl, but Mike is from Prestatyn. Alipeeps (talk) 17:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Education

The first welsh medium secondary school was opened in Rhyl in 1956 on Rhuddlan Road, it then moved to St Asaph in 1969. The building today houses Rhyl's welsh medium primary school Ysgol Dewi Sant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.27.190.6 (talk) 12:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Historically not Denbighshire
Once again, Rhyl was in historic Flintshire, not historic Denbighshire. It has only been in (modern) Denbighshire since 1996.  Dank Jae  00:43, 18 June 2024 (UTC)