Talk:Rice Owls baseball

Texas Rivalry
 Texas leads Rice 16-11 from 1997-2008. Need to find a source of longer historical data, but this is a start? Yes, yes it is.

Rice Historical Data from SWC
In an attempt to demonstrate prolonged futility, I want to use Boyd's Conference Standings to be able to say something like "Rice finished in the bottom-half of the SWC for ___ straight seasons, including last-place finishes ___ times." This took tallying and clicking, but I believe is something I can reasonably tally without being original research. I question if this Boyd site will stand up as a reliable source under (what I hope) will be an eventual GA or (pie-in-the-sky) FA review. But for now...

Top-Half
15 out of 92 1932, 1945 (3rd of 5), 1958-1961, 1969 (4th of 7), 1970, 1972, 1974, 1975 (5th of 9), 1981, 1984 (2nd!), 1990, 1994 (2nd)

Bottom-Half
72 out of 92 1915-1916, 1918, 1920-1931, 1936-1944, 1946-1957, 1962-1968, 1971, 1973, 1976, 1978-1980, 1982-1983, 1985-1989, 1991-1993, 1996

Last Place
24 out of 92 1915-1916, 1918, 1920, 1927-1928, 1937-1940, 1943-1944?, 1949-1952, 1954, 1964, 1971, 1978-1979, 1988-1989, 1991

Did Not Play / No Data?
1917, 1919, 1933-1935 Alphabeticalization (talk) 07:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Rice-Houston record
This isn't so much for discussion but to document the process by which I obtained the 80 Rice wins over Houston all-time, which is in disagreement with the numbers stated (but not verified) at Rice-Houston rivalry. The mess of citations at the end of the paragraph goto a slew of articles that I've tabulated for the final total shown in the article. The tally begins with the ESPN citation from 2003 that listed the all-time record going into the 2003 Super Regional series, and I've used RiceOwls.com data to fill in the remaining years, and then add. I cannot (as yet) find a source more recent than 2003 that states an all-time record between the two schools. I welcome anyone who can come forward and source a correction (whether it confirms or refutes the Rice-UH article above), or correct my adding. Alphabeticalization (talk) 21:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Aha, I figured out where he got the data from. Here's how I pieced it together:


 * In 2007, http://uhcougars.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/041207aaa.html stated that the all-time record was 71-66 before the season's Rice-UH series


 * Using headlines from UH, http://uhcougars.cstv.com/sports/m-basebl/spec-rel/hou-m-basebl-spec-rel.html, I see a cumulative Rice advantage of 6-2 since that article... (Apr 2007:WWL, Feb 2008:W, Mar 2008:L, May 2008:WWW)


 * Which leads to a cumulative all-time record of 77-68, which is a one-game flip from what was posted at Rice-Houston rivalry. I'm going with this, since it's a more recent set of sources from the same place. That was a lot of talking to myself. Alphabeticalization (talk) 22:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Heh, don't worry, I'm listening. Thanks for your research, and correction. Brianreading (talk) 22:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Pictures, Fair Use, and Jumping in Piles...
Want to help illustrate the 2003 Championship, and there's a pretty ubiquitous picture of the championship dogpile I'd like to use. But it's an AP photo and I'm not sure that there's a reasonable fair use for it.

An example of the photo camp be found here:. I realize it's by no means a necessity, but it'd be a nice illustration of a pretty important moment in Rice sports history. Also, this would be my first photo upload and I'd rather not mess it up.

Alphabeticalization (talk) 06:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think you'd be able to use it....but I'm not an expert on such matters. Perhaps look around for admins who are fair use experts and get their opinion.  Also, great job on this article, BTW!!!!!  You've really gone above and beyond. Seancp (talk) 15:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Coaches? Are they the same as similarly named Sports Figures?
Of note, Michael/Mike O'Neill, Joe Gallagher, and Dell Morgan MAY not be the same as their similarly named maybe-doppelgangers. O'Neill and Gallagher have documented Pro baseball careers which do not interfere time-wise with the coaching timeframes given in the Rice media guide. Morgan has a documented career coaching at Texas Tech. Possible at Rice also? Unsure. --Alphabeticalization (talk) 09:29, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Check the Rice baseball media guide, and if that doesn't help then I guess the next step would be more thorough research through a library. Maybe consult with some of the guys in the Pro Baseball Wikiproject, they may know of some great research sources for this kind of info. Seancp (talk) 16:25, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Rice Owls logo.gif
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Random Rice Team Records from NCAA that might be Useful later
From the Division I Records Book: Alphabeticalization (talk) 10:31, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Most stolen bases, team, game: Washington v. Rice, May 22, 1998
 * Most Hit Batters, Team, Game, Rice v. Washington, May 22, 1998
 * 4th most plate appearances (86), team, game: Texas v. Rice (20 inn.), May 15, 1981 -- TIED 5th Longest game ever
 * 8th most plate appearances (81), team, game: Texas v. Rice (20 inn.), May 15, 1981
 * 3rd most plate appearances (187), both teams, game, Rice v. Texas (20 inn.), May 15, 1981
 * 10th most plate appearances (140), both teams, game, Rice (69) v. Lamar (71) (16 inn.), April 20, 1982
 * 3rd most runs, losing team, Rice v. New Mexico, 26-27, April 12, 1998
 * same game, 11th most home runs, both teams, 13 (Rice 10, NM 3)
 * tie 1st, team grand slams inning, Rice v. Tulane, Feb 16, 1996, 6th inning
 * 2nd bases on balls, both teams, 30, Rice (21) v. Texas Southern (9), Feb. 22, 1995
 * tie 2nd, sacrifice hits both teams, 7, Rice (5) v. Lamar (2), April 20, 1982
 * 2007 yearly double plays, team, 84
 * 2006 winning percentage, team, .814
 * fielding percent by year, team, 1981 .973, 1983 .973
 * strikeouts by year, team, 2006 9.5 per 9 innings, 653 SO overall
 * ERA by year, 2004, 2.64, 2002, 2.79, 1984, 2.60
 * triples by year, 1999, 37, .5 per game
 * doubles by year, 2006, 162, 2.31 per game
 * doubles by year, 2001, 163, 2.43 per game
 * hits by year, 1999, 870 hits, .328 avg.


 * Winningest Teams of the 2000s: Rice (.758) 451-144, 2nd most victories behind Florida St. (.746)
 * Texas 4th %, 3rd Wins

Attendance Records
From NCAA "Baseball Attendance Records" 2008 Season Alphabeticalization (talk) 11:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Rice 13th in Average Home and Total Home Attendance: 134,150 over 36 dates for 3,726 average
 * 2nd highest CWS attendance, Oregon State v. Rice, 6/21/2006, 30,335 people
 * 3rd highest CWS attendance, 6/20/2007, Rice v. North Carolina, 29,921 people
 * Top 10 regular-season attendance dates
 * 4, 2006 Minute Maid Classic, Feb 11, 27,134 people for TCU/Houston, Texas/Rice, Tulane/Texas Tech
 * 6 2007 Minute Maid Classic, Feb 10, 23,984 people for Vandy/Arizona, A&M/Houston, Rice/Baylor
 * 7 2005 Minute Maid Classic, Feb 12, 21,995 people for Baylos/Tennessee, OkSt/Houston, Rice/Texas
 * 9 Texas 6, Rice 3 at Minute Maid Park Feb 14 2004

Texas-Rice Rivalry
All-time records compilable via http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/tex/sports/m-basebl/auto_pdf/record-by-years.pdf Record By Years: Record by decade (tallied from bellow):

Total All-time: Rice 52-202-2


 * 1910s: 0-11
 * 1920s: 5-23-1
 * 1930s: 2-16
 * 1940s: 1-29
 * 1950s: 7-23-1
 * 1960s: 4-26
 * 1970s: 10-19
 * 1980s: 5-27
 * 1990s: 11-19
 * 2000s: 7-9

Record by year in Rice wins-losses-ties


 * 1915: 0-4
 * 1916: 0-3
 * 1917: 0-2
 * 1918: 0-2
 * 1919: --
 * 1920: 1-1
 * 1921: 0-2
 * 1922: 0-1-1
 * 1923: 1-1
 * 1924: 0-4
 * 1925: 1-1
 * 1926: 0-1
 * 1927: 0-4
 * 1928: 0-4
 * 1929: 0-4
 * 1930: 1-3
 * 1931: 0-2
 * 1932: 1-3
 * 1933: --
 * 1934: --
 * 1935: --
 * 1936: 0-2
 * 1937: 0-3
 * 1938: 0-3
 * 1939: 0-3


 * 1940: 1-2
 * 1941: 0-3
 * 1942: 0-2
 * 1943: 0-4
 * 1944: 0-4
 * 1945: 0-2
 * 1946: 0-3
 * 1947: 0-3
 * 1948: 0-3
 * 1949: 0-3
 * 1950: 0-3
 * 1951: 0-3
 * 1952: 0-3
 * 1953: 1-2-1
 * 1954: 1-2
 * 1955: 2-1
 * 1956: 2-1
 * 1957: 0-3
 * 1958: 0-3
 * 1959: 1-2
 * 1960: 1-2
 * 1961: 0-3
 * 1962: 1-2
 * 1963: 0-3
 * 1964: 0-3


 * 1965: 0-3
 * 1966: 1-2
 * 1967: 1-2
 * 1968: 0-3
 * 1969: 0-3
 * 1970: 0-2
 * 1971: 0-3
 * 1972: 3-0
 * 1973: 3-0
 * 1974: 1-2
 * 1975: 0-3
 * 1976: 0-3
 * 1977: 1-2
 * 1978: 2-1
 * 1979: 0-3
 * 1980: 0-3
 * 1981: 1-3
 * 1982: 1-2
 * 1983: 0-4


 * 1984: 1-2
 * 1985: 0-3
 * 1986: 0-3
 * 1987: 0-3
 * 1988: 1-2
 * 1989: 1-2
 * 1990: 0-2
 * 1991: 1-2
 * 1992: 2-4
 * 1993: 0-3
 * 1994: 2-1
 * 1995: 3-2
 * 1996: 2-4
 * 1997: --
 * 1998: 1-1
 * 1999: --
 * 2000: --
 * 2001: 1-1
 * 2002: 0-3
 * 2003: 3-0
 * 2004: 0-3
 * 2005: 0-1
 * 2006: 0-1
 * 2007: 1-0
 * 2008: 2-0

Merger Proposal
I thought we had consensus at Articles for deletion/Major League Baseball players who played for Penn State that the standalone lists serve no purpose and should be merged with the articles that subsume the topic they cover. I say that Major League Baseball players who played for Rice University should be merged into Rice Owls baseball. --Muboshgu (talk) 13:46, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, this page has already been taken care of. --Muboshgu (talk) 13:49, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Bryan Price
I took the link from Bryan Price because the page linked was a Bryan Price who is 49 years old. I'm pretty positive this is not the Bryan Price who was just drafted from Rice a few years ago. Alissahart (talk) 05:16, 22 October 2011 (UTC)