Talk:Rice noodles

Vermicelli: Rice Sticks?
I'm no expert, but from what I've seen and read in many places,  'Rice sticks'  and Vermicelli rice noodles are completely different. Thai Sen yai, or Vietnamese bánh phở noodles - closer to Shāhé fěn noodles would be classed as 'rice sticks' wouldn't they? J.P.Lon 23:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Let me give my experience. Rice vermicelli (mifen) are marketed in the U.S. (even in large supermarkets) as "rice sticks." So we know the very thin "mifen" as "rice sticks" in the U.S. However, the more I read about this term (is there a literal Chinese translation of "rice sticks"?), I think the thicker round rice noodles, such as Guilin mifen (桂林米粉),photos or the thick rice noodles used to make laksa,photo or those used in Vietnam for bun bo Hue,photo or bún riêuphoto are the "real" rice sticks. Do you agree? Badagnani 23:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I think bánh phở are flat, not round. I think "rice sticks" are the thicker round noodles such as those shown in the photos above. I don't know about "sen yai." Badagnani 23:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)


 * This website says that "rice sticks" are any Asian rice noodle, and come in three sizes: thin, medium, and wide. Badagnani 00:07, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

That website also says 'rice vermicelli:...Substitutes: thin rice sticks... J.P.Lon 08:09, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * That is confusing. I think the people who made the website don't fully understand the uses of these terms. The photo for "thin rice sticks" looks slightly thicker than the "rice vermicelli" photo but then they say that "bun" is a type of "thin rice sticks." But in my understanding "bun" are a type of rice vermicelli. I think the usage of "rice sticks" is flexible, as evidenced by the photos of all the different widths of rice noodle marketed using this English term. Badagnani 08:18, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Photos:


 * Package of rice vermicelli (mifen) labeled as "rice sticks"
 * Package of rice vermicelli (mifen) labeled as "rice sticks"
 * Package of medium-width rice noodles labeled as "rice sticks"
 * Package of medium-wide rice noodles labeled as "rice sticks"
 * Package of wide rice noodles labeled as "rice sticks"

Badagnani 00:11, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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Page move
This page, over the past week, has been insistently moved from "Rice noodles" to "List of rice noodles," again and again, and again and again, without a single word of prior discussion. Kindly discuss and generate consensus for such a page move prior to moving a page once, let alone six (!) times. This article is an article about rice noodles, not a list (although, as it should, it does list various types of rice noodles as well as dishes prepared from such noodles). Thank you for this consideration. Badagnani (talk) 02:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a collection of indiscriminate information. If we wanted to list the dishes that use generic "rice noodles", we would do so on the appropriate and more specific article. "Rice noodles" is not a single type of food, and therefore it is far more appropriate to have it as a list.  GraYoshi2x► talk 02:39, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

I never add information to Wikipedia indiscriminately, and never have in my four years working here to build our encyclopedia. But that was not the subject of my comment above; it was the moving of this page many, many times without a word of prior discussion. Wikipedia benefits from an actual article about the very real phenomenon of rice noodles, and in fact it has one. Let's work together to make it the best possible article on this subject. Badagnani (talk) 03:09, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment: This is currently more than a list and less than an article. If you can't decide it with discussion between yourselves, ask for external input, eg at a relevant wikiproject. Either way, when a move is contested, it should be discussed, not repeated, which just leads to WP:EDITWARring. Rd232 talk 03:56, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful post. Let's work together to expand this article, turning it into the best, most encyclopedic article on this subject anywhere. There are a lot of sources available and the subject is notable. I believe User:Sjschen, who has spent a lot of efforts on similar articles, would be willing to help us with the Production section. Badagnani (talk) 04:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Difference between noodle and vermicelli not clear
I am totally confused on what should be considered as rice noodles and what should be considered as rice vermicelli. In fact I would recommend merging the 2 pages as I don't see a functional difference between a rice noodles dish or a rice vermicelli dish J mareeswaran (talk) 22:25, 2 September 2022 (UTC)


 * It looks like vermicelli is just one of the possible shapes of noodles, hence Rice vermicelli is a subset of Rice noodles
 * https://www.foodunfolded.com/article/what-are-rice-noodles
 * So there is a strong case for merging the two. J mareeswaran (talk) 03:43, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Apparently it looks like there are 3 major varieties of rice noodles by shape
 * Broad rice noodles = Ho fun noodles
 * Thin rice noodles = Rice vermicelli (local names are multiple)
 * Thick Rice Noodles =:Lai fun, Silver needle noodles
 * So I have edited the Rice Noodles page to highlight the varieties. Hopefully that should clear the confusion J mareeswaran (talk) 23:13, 5 September 2022 (UTC)