Talk:Richard Mack

RfC
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Ad-Hominem Attacks
Ad-hominem attacks are not appropriate for this article. I've removed one today and if they continue they should be reported so the article can be watched more closely. Mreed911 (talk) 22:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit on February 11 2014
Added a link to Provo, Utah in the page.

TheInformativePanda (talk) 17:07, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

NPOV editing
I've removed a section involving a very non-NPOV explanation of Richard Mack's alleged "hypocrisy." While the interactions of his refusal to accept ACA insurance, his medical situation, and his subsequent fundraising activities provide a rhetorical attack point, this specific element is neither NPOV nor significant enough to include in the article. Justin Eiler (talk) 18:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

CSPOA - "fringe group"
... fringe group label, which then links to extremism. Could anyone give a rational explanation why a pro-constitution is labelled "extremist"? --41.150.171.145 (talk) 20:11, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
 * That's begging the question, assuming as fact that it's pro-Constitution and then asking why it's labelled extremist. I doubt many scholars in the field of the constitution would see it as pro-Constitution. As the saying goes, actions speak louder than words. Doug Weller (talk) 20:46, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

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Posse Comitatus connections
This article needs updating to cover his connections to white supremacists and the white supremacist Posse comitatus movement. See more detailed discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Oath_Keepers#Richard_Mack_and_Posse_Comitatus. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 22:03, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that the current consensus at that discussion is that there is not sufficient evidence/sourcing to suggest that Mack is in any sense a "member" of Posse Comitatus, although he does espouse a number of their ideas. --MelanieN (talk) 22:32, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * It should be noted that MelanieN is making a false claim and has unilaterally removed content from the article, falsely claiming consensus after a raft of sources were provided to her for review and ignoring them. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 23:25, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Sources connecting Mack as a white supremacist and to the Posse Comitatus movement:
 * https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/former-arizona-sheriff-richard-mack-seeks-%E2%80%98army%E2%80%99-sheriffs-resist-federal-authority
 * "It so happens, though, that these worlds often intersect with the racist and xenophobic groups that see the nation as divinely created for white people. For example, on Sept. 8, Mack appeared on “The Political Cesspool,” a wildly racist radio show that has promoted the views of white supremacists, neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, antigovernment conspiracy theorists and other extremists. He told host James Edwards, “We do have a solution for what’s going on in Washington, D.C. We can make the federal government irrelevant.”


 * Mack also has been a longtime supporter of white supremacist Randy Weaver. In 2003, he wrote the forward to Weaver’s book, Vicki, Sam and America: How the Government Killed All Three. It had been 11 years since the deadly siege of the Weavers’ cabin in Ruby Ridge, Idaho, an event that helped fuel the militia movement of the 1990s, but Mack treated the event with fresh indignation. He chastised the federal government for inflicting an “unimaginable hell” on the Weavers and defended the family’s racist ties under the guise of “restor[ing] America as a country dedicated to freedom and liberty.”"


 * http://reason.com/archives/2012/02/10/meet-richard-mack-the-oath-keeper-runnin
 * http://www.mhrn.org/publications/specialresearchreports/AdvisoryonMack.pdf
 * https://www.hcn.org/issues/46.13/the-tea-party-loses-one-in-colorado
 * Book Reference - Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right By David Neiwert https://books.google.com/books?id=RdlqCwAAQBAJ&pg=PA51&lpg=PA51&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false
 * NAACP REPORT http://naacp.3cdn.net/36b2014e1dddfe3c81_v7m6bls07.pdf

Please review them at your own convenience. Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz (talk) 23:26, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

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Information said to be incorrect
removed a paragraph which had citations, saying "This paragraph is not true, Richard Mack has never supported nor involved in any white supremacist movement. Im asking you nicely please leave it off your page. He will be grateful :)" In a previous back and forth had restored some of this text.

I just signaled the WP:BLPN for another opinion about this. Can anyone comment?  Blue Rasberry  (talk)  00:14, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks to me, reading the sources, that Mack has supported and worked with white supremacist groups and individuals for decades. Are there any reliable sources that refute this? Cullen328  Let's discuss it  00:36, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The content is definitely supported in multiple reliable sources but the section should be trimmed to avoid WP:UNDUE. Also, the heading should be condensed. Meatsgains (talk)

Current Employment
Richard Mack is a teacher at Heritage Academy in Laveen Arizona.

Recent Washington Post article
here. Doug Weller talk 17:01, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

ADL article "The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) and Richard Mack: SEPT 2021 How Extremists Are Successfully Infiltrating Law Enforcement"
here. Doug Weller talk 17:03, 2 November 2021 (UTC)