Talk:Richard Morgan (MP for Gloucester)

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This is actually the same man as Richard Morgan (English judge) Richard Morgan (16th-century judge), as a look at this entry and the History of Parliament reference will soon make clear. Sjwells53 (talk) 13:35, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Well spotted. There doesn't seem anything really worth merging as the judge's article contains all the info here plus more, but I'll propose a merge or redirect to jusge's page. Boleyn (talk) 16:47, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Glad this is going ahead. It was potentially misleading and, as you say, this stub really adds nothing. I'm working at the moment on Robert Broke, who investigated the Maidstone election scandal of 1553 with Morgan. I'll have a look at the Morgan article afterwards, as it looks a bit scanty to me for a middling important politician of his day. Sjwells53 (talk) 20:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I've started to upgrade the Richard Morgan (English judge) article a bit. A problem with it, however, is that Morgan was actually Welsh. I'm happy to keep working on it, but I think a decision on the final title is required. I've also spotted a red link at the page on Custos Rotulorum for Monmouthshire and altered that, as that was also our Richard Morgan. Sjwells53 (talk) 09:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm minded to redirect both to a new page called "Richard Morgan (16th century judge)" or "Richard Morgan (died 1556)", and move to it the material from the "English judge" page. The article text always called him a "British judge", which is less contentious. However, Tudor politicians are generally identified, if confusion is possible, by some reference to their time frame, which seems to me entirely uncontentious. I'll wait for a week or so, then act if there are no objections. Sjwells53 (talk) 09:15, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

You could certainly move the much better version to a different title. I would avoid the term 'British' for the 16th-century though, as the concept didn't exist. Thanks for your work on this, Boleyn (talk) 10:22, 23 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Exactly. I changed it to Welsh some time ago. Insofar as the early 16th century used the term British, it would tend to suggest the "Ancient Britons". The modern use of the term really dates from Jacobean times. I'll still allow a few days before moving the article, in case some other problem is pointed out. Sjwells53 (talk) 10:51, 23 July 2013 (UTC)