Talk:Richard Radecki

Speedy Delete protest
Richard Radecki was one of the pioneers of Navy diving and his career is studied in every Navy diving course currently in existence. I just obtained a wealth of information about him from the U.S. Navy, under the Freedom of Information Act and plan to majorly expand this article as time permits.

In terms of diving, Radecki is as important (if not more some would argue), than Carl Brashear who Radecki actually trained with at one point. Additional, Radecki was a consultant for the film Men of Honor and had much face time with the major actors of that film and has a cameo in the film. For all of these reasons, he is important enough to warrant an article. -OberRanks (talk) 22:43, 13 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Agree with OberRanks. The information here is factual about an actual historical person, who just happens to be portrayed in a major motion picture.  The information here, while currently limited, is distinct and separate from the movie.  Thus it should not be merged into that article nor deleted. &mdash; MrDolomite &bull; Talk 01:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Radecki photo speedy deletion
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Fair use
I looked around quite extensively for a picture of this actor and the only one I could find was this screenshot from his interview in The Making of Men of Honor. To my knowledge, there are no other pictures available of this actor. -OberRanks (talk) 11:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * He is alive and as such is is deemed possible to take a photo, that one cannot be found on the internet now is insufficient - see WP:NFCC. - Peripitus (Talk) 12:32, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

He is not a professional actor and the only two shots available of him anywhere appear to be this one and a second movie screenshot from Men of Honor where he is standing next to Robert Deniro (we could upload that one instead?). I would say it would be next to impossible to get a photograph of him other than going to his house and asking to take one of him. As an alternative, we could remove the photo and then I could link the same picture from a private website. That would serve the same purpose. But, as far as getting a public photo of him, I would not know to where to look since I don't think one exists. -OberRanks (talk) 12:44, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Got a tip that the Defense Media Activity, a division of the Department of Defense might have some shots of him as part of his work with Men of Honor. Those would be federal government and we could use those to the best of my knowledge. If that meets with everyone's approval, we can take this picture down and I can get a hold of the Defense Department stills. -OberRanks (talk) 12:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Since there was no response to the above inquiry about the Defense Media Activity, I will go ahead and acquire the picture and repost it on the article. This one therefore can be deleted although this talk page discussion should be saved. -OberRanks (talk) 16:29, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Notability and Reference tagging
Military wise, an MSM is no big shakes. In this regard he fails military notability standards. (For military bios, you gotta get the MoH or second highest awards.) As an expert on any subject, there is no documentation to support this contention. His records at the Records Center (which have not been provided other than through a supposed FOIA request) will not have any documentation as to his expertness. E.g., if he is studied as a pioneer in Navy diving, there must be something published. The IMDb link (provided by me) is no big shakes either, and is non-RS. OberRanks tells us he has a wealth of data, but a service record is Primary Source. Again, where are the secondary sources that establish notability? – S. Rich (talk) 19:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Following a search on HighBeam Research, Google, and American Film Institute, I came up with nothing to use in establishing notability. Next I consulted OberRanks, who most graciously concurred with my notability assessment. (At least he did not raise objection.) With all this in mind, I de-linked Radecki in various articles and set up the WP:BLAR. Thank you, again, OberRanks. And please forgive me for improperly suggesting that a FOIA on Radecki had not been done. – S. Rich (talk) 03:33, 18 September 2013 (UTC)