Talk:Richardson, Texas/Archive 1

Initial text
The introduction paragraph needs to be revised - 95% of Richardson is in Dallas County, not Collin County. It is misleading to state that Richardson is in Collin County in the first sentence of this entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.54.95.1 (talk) 12:20, 19 August 2004 (UTC)
 * I looked it up elsewhere, and it's more like roughly 67%+ is in Dallas County and and less than 33% in Collin County. Updated accordingly. Dannybu2001 18:17, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Berkner violence
The paragraph about the murder's of Berkner High students is also in the article about Berkner High School. It's redundant to have it here. Also, there have been other murders in the history of Richardson, but I don't think any encylopedia article about a city needs to include a list of all of the city's murder victims, unless the murder happens to also be a significant historical event. - Chfowler 06:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Richardson had one murder in 2003, so it doesn't get many. Losing three students in three weeks was a big deal -- it inspired a protest march of 600 people, one student appeared in a gun control ad, and there was a lot of media coverage of the "violence comes to the burbs" variety. Rcade 12:53, 30 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Then expand the article to explain the significance of the event. I still don't think it rises to the level of encylopedic unless it was a significant historical event (i.e. the assassination of a president), or it sparked a international, national, or at least regional political movement. Chfowler 05:11, 31 December 2005 (UTC)


 * That standard's too high for a city of 90,000 people. Very little in any suburb's history would rise to the level of a presidential assassination. I could see shortening the paragraph and letting the Berkner entry tell more of the details, but removing it entirely takes away an event of local significance. I grew up attending Richardson schools and lived there from 1973 to 1986. My personal take on the entry is that it's well-written, but too short on events that might reflect negatively on the city. Rcade 14:52, 31 December 2005 (UTC)


 * My point is just that unless this specific event was more siginifiant that any other murder in the city, then it doesn't warrant inclusion in the article, unless you want to add a section to the article that gives a few details about every murder victim in the history of the city. If it did have some impact beyond the 'normal' impact of the crime, then by all means leave it in, but more details need to be added to show it's significance.  The way the paragraph is worded now, it looks like it's only there because someone feels that the event was siginificant only because the victims were connected to Berkner High School.  That makes the event likely to be significant for inclusion in the article about Berkner, but not about the city.  FYI, I've lived in the Plano/Richardson area since 1991, and have friends who attended Berkner, and I have never heard of these events. Chfowler 00:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


 * It's impossible to judge it against other murders in the abstract. If you know of more significant murders (or other crimes) in the city's history, they should be included too. I'm not going to address your specific concerns with edits, because your "presidential assassination" standard is so excessive I can't imagine coming up with anything that would meet it. I take it as a given that most cities of 90,000 people would have a few crimes that rate a mention in a history of the city. I would remove the Berkner murders for more significant crimes, but not out of a general principle that the crimes weren't significant enough. Rcade 14:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Based on your points, I've changed my mind about high level of significance required to make it encylopedic. So, I'm not saying it should be removed.  I'm just saying that if it was of significance to the city, then add the text to exlpain why it stands out from other murders that happened in the city.  Your original point above ("it inspired a protest march of 600 people, one student appeared in a gun control ad, and there was a lot of media coverage of the "violence comes to the burbs" variety") is the kind of thing I'm talking about.  As it stands right now, someone not familiar with the history of the city would read the paragraph and probably say, "so what. Every city has had murders." Chfowler 16:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I'll take a second pass at it this week. Thanks for the feedback. Rcade 13:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Images of Richardson
I've added an image gallery so that there aren't so many images inlined with the article (it was causing some formatting problems, too). Please add any significant pictures of Richardson (preferably that you've taken yourself) by uploading them to the Commons and adding them to the page (see the Upload File link in the toolbox to the left)! Nathan Beach 17:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Source Citations
Because I'm a total dork, I'm going to the Richardson Public Library to start getting source citations for the history section. I kind of threw it together a while back from a page on cor.net as well as just stuff I know from reading about Richardson history. Anyways, please start citing any sources you have for the other sections, too... Nathan Beach 17:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

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Holy Land Foundation Issue
Regarding the text "A charitable trust called the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, which was based in Richardson, was shut down in 2001, as it was accused of funding Hamas."

I remember when this happened, and I remember it in the news, so it is a "historical event" that happened in Richardson. However, user "38.104.34.70" or "74.202.44.40" -- if you want this event to remain in this article, please provide a citation (newspaper or magazine article reference, etc) and/or sign up for an actual Wikipedia account for some kind of credibility, otherwise, I fully support D's removal. Thanks... --nathanbeach  20:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Then why remove it? Instead mark it "Citation needed." A citation wil be added in due time. Why not remove the issue about "Jeremy for the same reason? Why the hypocrisy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.175.73.68 (talk) 17:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Again... Citation needed has been added and a reference will be added in due time. An internationally known event and an event which garnered national press coverage at the subsequent trial should not be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.104.34.70 (talk) 14:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The citation looks fine. I moved it to the "History" section and got rid of the "Richardson In The News" section (always thought that was a little awkward).  I also moved a paragraph from the History section to the Demographics section.  So, we now actually have some interesting information in Demographics, unlike 99.9% of the other small town pages on wikipedia...    --nathanbeach   16:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Jeremy Issue
On January 8, 1991, Richardson High School student Jeremy Wade Delle fatally shot himself in front of his English class, an incident that inspired the Pearl Jam song "Jeremy."

I remember when this happened, and I remember it in the news, so it is a "historical event" that happened in Richardson. However, if you want this event to remain in this article, please provide a citation (newspaper or magazine article reference, etc) for some kind of credibility, otherwise, I to be consistent with previously removed items I support the removal. Thanks...

Ryanweath (talk) 14:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)ryanweath re-adding this section along with citations

Two Girls One Cup
Regarding the Google trends thing that's been removed, it would make some sense that that much traffic came from Richardson since several major data centers for the various North Texas ISP's are here. Tracking like that doesn't indicate the location of the computer the request came from -- it's the location of the ISP (which could be located anywhere). Pretty funny, though, that Richardson's at the top of the list. We win! --nathanbeach  18:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Famous Folks
If you are going to add someone to the Famous Richardsonians list, please alphabetize them and follow the capitalization standard for what they are (e.g. "actor" vs. "Actor"). Nathan Beach 17:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Vernon Howell (aka David Koresh)
This needs to be cited. It is a reach to call this man a Notable Richardsonian, even if he did live in the city for a small period of time. He was a drop out of Garland High School which serves the residents of Garland, TX. David Koresh and the events that brought him into the public eye were in Waco, TX. It is understandable to note him on the Waco page and maybe the Garland page but not the Richardson page. Please delete or provide information explaining how David Koresh is significant to Richardson, TX. —added by D (talk • contribs) 20:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

A reference to a book was cited in the comment to the edit. A book title, including author and page number were given. In fact, the book contains pictures of him which the author claims were taken in Richardson and the book specifically discusses his time in Richardson.

To be consistent, you would then need to remove more people from the Notable Richardsonians list. More people other than him lived in Richardson only a short time and in fact some (like Matt Stover) have no record at all of living in Richardson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.104.34.70 (talk) 16:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Matt Stover played football for the Richardson Independent School District and now plays for the NFL. That makes him significant enough to list on the Richardson page. I saw your book reference when you added Mr. Koresh but it still does not explain why he is significant to Richardson, TX.

If you do find any people on the list that you feel should not be there, please delete them. But there is no evidence, via Google or Wikipedia, to be found showing Mr. Koresh having a significant presents in Richardson. Even the reference to the book that was cited does no say anything about him or his family living or being a part of Richardson. It does say they lived in Sachse, TX and caught a bus in Richardson to take them to church school in Dallas. Richardson was a bus stop for them and nothing more. —added by D (talk • contribs) 17:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Forgive me for butting in here but this is a subject I know something about. Vernon Howell most certainly lived in Richardson. Not only that he attended the Seventh Day Adventist Church with his mother in Richardson. That church still exists. This is significant because the Davidian movement is an offshoot of Seventh Day Adventism. This is backed up not only by the book mentioned above (and that book happens to be an autobiography of his mother) but by other books. Prophets of the Apocalypse by Ken Samples and Apocalypse and Millennium: Studies in Biblical Exegesis by Kenneth Newport discuss Howell living in Richardson and attending the Adventist church.

LbDrew says that: "there is no evidence, via Google or Wikipedia, to be found showing Mr. Koresh having a significant presents[SIC] in Richardson. Even the reference to the book that was cited does no say anything about him or his family living or being a part of Richardson." I think Drew has a chip on his shoulder because that is not true. That book does say his family moved to Richardson and not only that the cover picture of the book claims to be taken in Richardson. The other books state it as well. He seems as significant to Richardson as anyone else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.41.25 (talk) 20:59, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

To repeat the very first sentence of this subject. "This needs to be cited." A couple of unsigned IPs that claim they saw something in a book is not a solid cite. If it is true it will not be hard to find a solid link of proof. I say if we can cite it lets post it. —added by D (talk • contribs) 03:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Well Mr LB "Chip on my shoulder" Drew, I think you volunteered for the job. As you said, "If it is true it will not be hard to find a solid link of proof." Go to it. I think its imperative upon you to show that the citations DO NOT contain the said references. I wish you luck. If you aren't willing to look the references up to refute them then don't delete them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.231.41.25 (talk) 23:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

There is no need to be uncouth. The burden of proof is on the person who provides the alleged facts. Nevertheless I have looked up many references regarding this subject. I have not found one piece of information demonstrating David Koresh to be significant to the city of Richardson, TX. —added by D (talk • contribs) 18:05, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Frank Ticheli
Got confirmation by email to USC address that Frank Ticheli is from Richardson:


 * Yes, I went to Berkner H.S., played in the high school band under Bob
 * Floyd, and graduated in 1976. There is an extensive bio. on me coming
 * out this month in the book: A Composer's Insight, Vol. 4, published
 * by Meredith Music.
 * Best,
 * Frank Ticheli (frankticheli.com)
 * Frank Ticheli (frankticheli.com)

Others
Hello -- I just removed several people, probably added by themselves, from the Notable Richardsonians list. I couldn't find any significant reference to them by using Google, besides the fact that they don't have any representation at Wikipedia. This list should probably be limited to famous people that already are in Wikipedia (i.e., have passed the WP:BIO policy. I think "Kenny Tran" in the list may be borderline.  He seems actually to be an import racer (from searching I did), but I don't know how notable he is.  Anyone have any comments?   --nathanbeach   15:16, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm removing "Kenny Tran" -- no one has responded about his notability and I can't really find anything on him via Google (besides the fact that he's not in Wikipedia yet). When he's significant enough to be added to Wikipedia, we can add him back here.    --nathanbeach   15:22, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Andrea Crofts
Just removed "Andrea Crofts" from the Notables list, probably added by herself or a friend. As far as I can tell, it's this person: Andrea Crofts. There seem to be no other significant hits in google for anyone with that name, and certainly no-one else from Texas. --nathanbeach  15:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Richardson, Texas - Heights Park Rocket
The famous Rocket Slide at Heights Park which was removed in July 2008.

It appeared in an episode of the FOX-TV animated series, "King of The Hill", titled "Propane Boom II: Death of a Propane Salesman" which was shown on September 15, 1998. Mike Judge the Producer of the series, grew up around the Garland, Richardson, North Dallas of Texas.

A month later after the Rocket's removal from Heights Park, the local area publication called "D Magazine". Had their annual list of the "Best in The Big D Area". Heights Park in Richardson was listed as the Best City Park and mentioned the as well as a photograph of the famous Rocket Slide. They got a kid to be photographed on the slide of the Rocket wearing a space helmet. The writers/editors of the "D Magazine" article said they had the piece already written up and sent to the publishers before they learned of it's removal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spaceman42 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

University of Texas at Dallas
I think that it is a valid piece of information that is missing from this article that the University of Texas at Dallas, UTD, is in Richardson. I think this should be added in somewhere. Xadnder 8 July 2006

UTD Location
On 15:13, 18 August 2009, a user at IP address 67.66.166.249 reverted changes I had made to the description of UTD's location. I have restored these changes, because my description is considerably more accurate than the text it replaced.

The original text: "The University of Texas at Dallas, often called UT Dallas or UTD, is part of the University of Texas System. Despite its name, UT Dallas is in Richardson, near the border of Dallas. The main campus is east of Coit Road and north of Campbell Road."

My updated text: "The University of Texas at Dallas, often called UT Dallas or UTD, is part of the University of Texas System. Despite its name, nearly all of the UT Dallas campus is in Richardson, near the border of Dallas.[30] The main campus is sited with Campbell Road on the south, Floyd Road on the east, Waterview on the west, and Synergy Park Boulevard on the north, with the school owning additional largely vacant land between Synergy and the President George Bush Turnpike. The main entrance to the campus is on the south side at Campbell Road and West Shore Drive."

UTD does own a building in Dallas across Waterview, and the news came out the other day that they are buying yet another building along this stretch which will also be in Dallas. In addition, the description that UTD is "east of Coit Road" is actually funny - the entire City of Richardson is east of Coit Road. If you go to Coit and Campbell, you will find yourself about a mile away from the entrance, as no part of the campus comes close to Coit.

So, Mr./Ms. 67.66.166.249, before you revert my changes again, please explain why a less accurate description of the school's location is desirable... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mccalpin (talk • contribs) 20:00, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Mr./Ms. 67.66.166.249, I see that you felt compelled once again to edit what I wrote. From your edits, I removed the "on the border of Dallas" as it no longer made sense with your changes; I corrected your misspelling of "building"; and I changed "a agreement" to the correct "an agreement". It would be courteous - to say the least - to respond to my questions BEFORE you feel compelled to edit my content so badly that I have to correct its grammatical mistakes...be a mensch, huh, and talk to me here!

William J. &#39;Bill&#39; McCalpin (talk) 04:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your help Mccalpin. You have been very kind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.66.166.249 (talk) 18:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

edits by 75.199.62.109
Please note, 75.199.62.109, that I have reverted your reversion of my edits on the opening paragraph. While it is commendable to want to remove the "citation needed" tags, you shouldn't do so by restoring the old citations that were previously there that were inaccurate and years out of date. Besides, I had also corrected some typos, which you also reverted at the same time.

It would also be a great idea if you would create your own login here at Wikipedia, as this allows you to start building a reputation under your name rather than under an IP address, and can also prevent you from being blocked if, by chance, your IP address was blocked because someone else at that address was misusing the ability to edit the encyclopedia. William J. &#39;Bill&#39; McCalpin (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:32, 3 December 2010 (UTC).

Economy & Development presents false view
According to the Budget for the current Fiscal Year, the economy is down compared to 2000-2001 so the careful selection of years for the article misrepresents the true trend. Furthermore, the unemployment has reached 8.4% in 2010, much worse than previous years. Sales taxes peaked in 2000-2001 and have not recovered to the level, and the only revenues that have increased are taxes and fees paid by residents. I am still studying this Budget and expect to have more details soon. It is available to all through a link on the main site. (www.cor.net) Cor resident (talk) 00:48, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Lead secion
The lead section appears to be simply a catalogue of one-line items of superlatives. Perhaps it could be rewritten according to the Manual of Style (lead section) with which it currently has very little in common. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:43, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Editor assistance requests
This article, Richardson, Texas, has been the subject of a discussion at EAR. Among the comments were suggestions that the contributors could consider discussing any issues on the article's talk page. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:47, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:TPG
Please remember that article talk  pages are for discussing  improvements to the article. They are not intended as a general discussion on the subject  itself. Irrelevant posts can  be removed. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:34, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Stupid laws in Richardson
There are some laws that are nuts in the Code of Ordinances. For example there is one that "defines" property to mean just the asset and thereby separating it from the rights which are the usual legal meaning. The city has created a department, Neighborhood Integrity, to step in and claim the property appropriated from the owners. Another ordinance states that any vegetation over 12 inches high is presumed unsightly. Apparently the City Council is not aware that trees, shrubs, vines look much better at their normal height. It also seems to escape the notice of the City manager that the City maintains much of its vegetations in excess of 12". There are more examples but for now I'm requesting comments. Cor resident (talk) 20:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

BECAUSE I want to know if it improves the article. :) Cor resident (talk) 01:13, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Neutrality, tone, and cohesion
The general tone of this article  is promotional. It reads almost  as if  it  were authored by  a public relations clerk at  city  hall. Perhaps some regular contributors to it could consider recasting it for neutrality  and encyclopedic tone, maybe with  the help  of an editor from  the Guild of Copy Editors. The relevance of some of the photos is not immediately  clear, and some of them are tagged for technical  and other attention. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:30, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Active Banana    (bananaphone  00:57, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't see how anything can be said while staying within the guidelines. There is no independent source of information that I know of. The city was established as a conservative enclave back in the days of segregation and the same group has stayed in power since. Their main consideration is their own self interest, their jobs for life and holding on to power. Things like rule of law and veracity are secondary; what matters is complete control of all the top offices in the city and the school district, which is the second largest employer, a major source of patronage. Nothing they say can be considered reliable yet they control all publications and media in the city. So what possible sources does that leave? Cor resident (talk) 02:14, 30 April 2011 (UTC)


 * All human settlements (except isolated groups of farmhouses) are generally  notable so  long  as they  can  be proven to  exist  or historically existed,  and we don't  need to  prove that  it  has a public library or other civic amenities, for example. The lack  of neutrality  is in  the overall tone of the piece. Basically, it  reads exactly  like a brochure written  by  a public relations clerk  at  city  hall. The city  web site can be used as a referenced source for all  statistics and facts etc., but  should not  be quoted directly  or paraphrased. Consider using  facts from  books and regional  newspapers that  support the content. An example of a Good Article about  a town is at  Malvern, Worcestershire. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:05, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

A footnote refers to N.Texas e-News, LLC. Is that a law office? They seem to have printed an article "by City of Richardson." I don't see a date on this website and it doesn't seem to be a periodical. I'm wondering if this is a valid source. It claims an award to the city about its parks but the awarding group doesn't seem to have a link. Cor resident (talk) 13:33, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

My edits have disappeared. What's up with that?
I have been trying to add some balance to this article which is highly biased. If this information is to be credible it should reflect reality and I have been seeking to provide some. But my edits have been removed and I don't see any discussion of that. What's up? Cor resident (talk) 00:22, 27 April 2011 (UTC)


 * COR RESIDENT,
 * Many of you edits seem to make the article more biased. And many if not all of them have not been backed up by facts.  There are a lot of opinions in your edits.  I read the article and I'm not saying it's perfect but I don't think you are improving it's quality.  I really don't want to get into a long discussion about it nor do I have time to fix your mess.  Try to stick with facts maybe?  I'm just trying to help.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.15.252.129 (talk) 14:02, 28 April 2011 (UTC)


 * SineBot?:
 * All the information I presented comes from the city Budget document for FY2011. It was prepared by the City-Manager and was presented to and accepted by the City Council, and is available to everyone via a link on the municipal website. These are no more my opinion than the silly entries referencing King of the Hill. If you disagree with these facts, please have the courtesy to specify what you don't like so, between us, we can improve the article and bring it up to encyclopedic standards. There is actually a great deal to be said on this subject which is being swept under the rug and I am curious to know why. Cor resident (talk) 17:30, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

The problem of deletions continues. We seem to have resistance to changes for some reason and one or two people seem to be systematically reversing changes. Nearly all the paragraphs on this page can be traced to highly biased websites operated by the city, since independent sources are few. And when data which is unquestionable true but uncomplimentary is presented, they invent "facts" to undermine the "damage" they perceive. Either this has to stop or the Wikipedia reputation for veracity will be damaged. Cor resident (talk) 16:14, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Late 2000s Recession
A recent revision claims economic data from 2011 and attributes it to the Telecom Corridor website. However, I am unable to verify this data. In fact 2010 is the most recent data I was able to find on that site and it was county wide rather than specific to the city. Can the poster be more specific about the source of this data? Cor resident (talk) 16:38, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Candidate's Budget Claim Off The Mark
The Richardson, TX article has been under attack due to this issue. People seem to go after the article every two years around local election time. While the city has not been untouched by the recession it has done very well in all areas compared to other cities.

Richardson City Council candidate John DeMattia has incorrectly claimed in several candidates' forums that the City has had a $20 million budget deficit over the last four years. He claims that data from the last three City CAFRs (Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports) and the current year budget (2010-2011) show that the City has had operating losses of $18 million over the last three years and will add another $2 million by the end of the current fiscal year.

Richardson has a Balanced Budget. Failure to balance our budget has never been an option. We should all take great pride in Richardson's stable financial condition. Richardson's triple A bond rating by Moody's, as well as Standard & Poor's, would never have occurred if the City were consistently running deficits as asserted by Mr. DeMattia. He seems to believe that these national rating agencies have it wrong.

The problem is that he is adding apples and oranges. The explanation is technical, for those interested, here is further detail: Budgets are based on a cash method; CAFR's are based on an accrual method. That is, the amounts in the CAFR's are not cash losses, but are changes in net assets. And what are these changes in net assets? Frequently, they are the result of accounting changes and actuarial assumptions that have nothing to do with cash flow.

Actuarial studies include estimating future liabilities for things like post-employment benefits paid to City retirees. The cost of these benefits is estimated over a 30-year period, and then the "expense" per year is added to a table in the CAFR that shows changes to net assets. But the assumptions underlying these studies frequently change based on expected mortality, interest rates, changes in the benefit plan, and so on. A change in the assumptions can cause a significant change in net assets--with zero effect on cash flows or the budget.

Another perennial source of these changes is the movement of funds to and from the water reserve fund, to make up any gaps between bill revenues and the City's annual obligation to the water district. These amounts can be significant, particularly in wet/dry years when billing revenue is less/more than our obligation.

The City has at least four CPA's and two Certified Government Finance Officers on staff--this is the team that prepares the CAFR's. Mr. DeMattia's assertions may be the result of bad advice about the meaning of the information in the CAFRs. Richardson does in fact have a balanced budget.

For further details, please visit the independent web site RumorCheck.org, which has thoroughly researched this issue. D (talk) 14:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)


 * What is wrong with this picture? Why should an encyclopedia article inspire political controversy? Clearly there needs to be a thorough rethink about what is important, what is provable and what can we agree on. Maybe we should look at the odd ordinances. They are obviously true and yet indefensible. Or maybe we should look into the politics of the city if it is so controversial. The lack of an independent press precludes the kind of oversight that exposed Bell, Calif. Cor resident (talk) 01:13, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

I was not saying an encyclopedia inspires political controversy. I am saying this website and other media outlets have been used a lot lately to spread rumors about the state of the city in an effort to sway votes. I put out that warning since I saw that happenings again on this article. I am putting out that warning so people can keep a look out for information that is not true or not cited, to maintain and improve the current quality of the article. (D (talk) 17:56, 5 May 2011 (UTC))


 * But the claims of budget imbalance are based on the State Comptrollers complaint, aren't they? Sales taxes were erroneously computed and spending was based on those errors, right? Cor resident (talk) 20:51, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

No COR Resident that is not right. That is called propaganda.(D (talk) 18:03, 10 May 2011 (UTC))


 * Please stop with the personal attacks and unfounded accusations. All my information, including that about the State Comptroller and the Sales Tax errors, comes from the "Comprehensive Annual Financial Reports" for 2008, 2009, 2010 published by the City under its Transparency program. How you newcomers can invade the city and employ big lie tactics is beyond me, but I know what I can read and what you could read too if you could open your mind. I wish you would explain what your vested interest is in the utopian image you try to propagate to an unsuspecting world. Are you trying to sell a house and get out of town? When I finish my research into the "Richardson Improvement Corporation" I think you're going to have something to howl about. Cor resident (talk) 00:20, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

That was not a personal attack. You asked a question and I answered it. What you just said about me was a personal attack, suggestive and untrue. Put it on the page and cite it with links that will actually take you to the information you claim is true. As I have said before I am on wiki to preserve existing facts, add new facts and eliminate false information. I don’t have to explain to you why I choose the pages I do to edit. I see you have made it very clear on my talk page and the Richardson talk page why you are here and that is your choice but I think it is not very wise considering what you seem to be trying to do.(D (talk) 13:46, 11 May 2011 (UTC))

Posting to the correct page
Please remember that information regarding other cities should go on their own page. This page is about Richardson, TX.(D (talk) 20:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC))


 * Please cite the rule that forbids contexts. The idea that awards are given without criteria or competition is empty of informative value. As a new comer, I need explicit pointers in many cases and I welcome the help. Cor resident (talk) 20:47, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

OMG, the article on Dallas mentions other cities, like Garland, Plano and Arlington. Do you think someone should mention it to someone? D, do I hear you volunteering? Cor resident (talk) 04:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Then please fix it if you saw info on the Dallas page that is not relevant. Don't go adding stuff to other pages that isn't relevant. You don’t need wiki to make your campaign work successful. You guys are airing enough lies on TV ads. I don’t care about the election and convincing people that the men in office have made the city so bad off. I’m sure whoever wins will do business as usual. I am here to simply keep this page fact based. I can’t help it if the city has been called one of the best places to live in the country or that the city has a better credit rating than almost any other city you compare it too. It is what it is.(D (talk) 14:02, 10 May 2011 (UTC))


 * What are you talking about? Do you suffer from persecution delusions or something? Who are the "you guys" you are blaming for whatever? You have fabricated statistics and you are trying to blame me for trying to add facts from reliable sources? What is your agenda? I can tell you this; I am more interested in making Wikipedia a reliable, accurate source of information that I am in painting a pretty face on this city. You have appointed yourself the guardian of the city and you have gotten all your information from the city website, which is not unbiased at all. Honestly, this whole article should be erased and a new article written which only includes data that can be verified by a second source. That eliminates 90% of what is there now. I have asked you before and I ask you again, here and now; why do you think you are the only contributor allowed to post to this article? Cor resident (talk) 00:06, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

You don’t provide citation links that actually send you to the information you add to the page. You just claim it’s from something you read. As I have said over and over before I am here to preserve facts and improve the pages going on without deleting everything that currently exist. You guys are the people that show up here on city articles every two years around local election time trying to use wiki for your smear campaigns against incumbents by trying to make it look like they have run the city into the ground. I think it’s silly. I see it every two years. You are nothing new.(D (talk) 14:01, 11 May 2011 (UTC))

Chinese name
WhisperToMe (talk) 04:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * "美國德州達福18市長褒獎華人新年晚會." Epoch Times
 * "李察遜市"

Government
There was a silly edit war in May-June of 2011 in which people argued over "too many images" and "unnecessary sections" and other silly things. As a result, some very legitimate content was removed. I have restored the "Government" section (and updated it), and will restore other sections as time permits. William J. &#39;Bill&#39; McCalpin (talk) 03:34, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Walk Score
Richardson's Walk Score is erroneously stated as 81. The actual Walk Score for the city is 50, at the very bottom of the "somewhat walkable" rating.

http://www.walkscore.com/TX/Richardson

the highest score for any city in texas is 70 in University Park. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.58.5.184 (talk) 09:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Richardson's Walk Score as of today is at 77 or Very Walkable. Walk Scores change with time and location. But when you go to walkscore.com and type in "Richardson, TX" a score of 77 is givin as of June 2011. http://www.walkscore.com/score/Richardson-TX University Park's score is also coming in at 77 at the same time. http://www.walkscore.com/score/university-park-tx I'm not sure what the above poster is referring too.G21a0g8zjs2fsea2gs (talk) 21:41, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

As of today, it's 40. I recommend deleting the city's walk score from the article if it's not reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.65.182.227 (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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Richardson and lists
I have reverted the series of lists (Richardson is the best such-and-such according to XXX), because this type of comment is common in other cities' articles in Wikipedia. It's true that Richardson has more of them, but if we delete these sorts of things here, then we should delete them in every city's article in Wikipedia...I don't see anyone volunteering to do that. Besides, these rankings are all (so far as I know) by notable organizations that have their own Wikipedia pages...yes, the promoters of the city would probably insert these items into their promotional material...but that is not, ipso facto, a reason to delete it all...

William J. &#39;Bill&#39; McCalpin (talk) 05:28, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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