Talk:Richter tuning

Origin
I'd like for this article to contain information regarding the orgin of Richter tuning. I assume Richter is a person's name, so who is he? How does he factor into the history of harmonicas? When did all of this happen? -Verdatum (talk) 15:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Richter was a person, but
 * His first name seems lost to history. (Chelminski has actually provided a first name for Richter (“Joseph”), but didn't say where he got it and has since admitted that he's forgot where he got it.)
 * He wasn't the inventor of Richter tuning, whose origin also seems lost to history. Richter was apparently a maker of harmonicas, but just how the name of the tuning got associated with him is… well, yeah, lost to history.
 * The introduction of Richter tuning to harmonicas occurred in the 19th Century. But one can find Richter-tuned accordions that predate these harmonicas.  I don't know enough about the history of the accordion to know when Richter-tuned accordions first appeared.  And I don't know whether one can find other sorts of instruments that were Richter-tuned before the accordion.
 * Some or all of what I just told you is in Häffner and Lindenmüller, but I don't have it at hand to back-up any of what I just told you, so I cannot presently incorporate it into the article, and you're not in a great position to trust me. But I thought that I'd do what I could to address your curiosity. —SlamDiego&#8592;T 04:08, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's something that doesn't meet WIkipedia source guidelines, but may meet your requirements: “So just who was this Richter guy and what exactly did he invent?” by Pat Missin. —SlamDiego&#8592;T 04:14, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow thanks! I didn't expect such a rapid and complete response.  Obviously, the link provided isn't a peer reviewed journal or anything, but it is attributable to a single author.  For a source, I would consider it better than nothing until we can find a published dissertation by a musicological anthropologist (slightly tongue-in-cheek).  I'll see what content I can add when I get the chance. -Verdatum (talk) 13:30, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Tuning sequence
In the chart describing the original Richter tuning sequence, I believe that the sequence is a bit flawed. As I recall, for 10 holes, the tuning is:


 * {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"

! hole ! blow note ! draw note
 * 1 || 2 ||  3 ||  4 ||  5 ||  6 ||  7 ||  8 ||  9 || 10
 * C || E || G || C || E || G || C || E || G || C
 * D || G || B || D || F || A || B || D || F || A
 * }

and for 16 holes:


 * {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"

! hole ! blow note ! draw note
 * 1 || 2 ||  3 ||  4 ||  5 ||  6 ||  7 ||  8 ||  9 || 10 || 11 || 12 || 13 || 14 || 15 || 16
 * C || E || G || C || C || E || G || C || C || E || G || C || C || E || G || C
 * D || F || A || B || D || F || A || B || D || F || A || B || D || F || A || B
 * }

I do not know the Richter tuning for 12- and 14-holed C harmonicas, but I am absolutely sure that these are the standards for 10- and 16-holed ones. —Blue Caper  (talk) 13:00, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this 10 holes tuning sequence should be used in the Summary section of the article, instead of the 16 holes scheme which is there now. This 10-holes scheme is by far the most common scheme today, commonly referred to as "Richter tuning" (regardless of whatever that lost-in-history Mr. Richter really invented). Finding references should be easy, e.g. book Harmonica For Dummies, ISBN13: 9781118880760. This most common 10-hole scheme is not present in the article at all, although "Country tuning" refers to is as being modification of it.Vaclav.hanzl (talk) 09:28, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Wouldn't it make more sense if each of the alternate tuning charts used the same key? It looks like some are using C (which is usually the default key for lessons) but other ones are using G, which makes quick comparisons harder. Nacoran (talk) 20:35, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

This article is really confusing. Most of the tunings seem to be for diatonic harmonicas. For consistency there should be one harmonica type (so, for instance a 10 hole) in one key. Also, since most of the other tunings are for diatonic harmonicas aside from not being a 10 hole layout the Richter tuning is not what you'd see on a Richter tuned harmonica. If the article covers multiple instruments it should show the layout differences between them. I don't know how to format on Wikipedia, but for a C diatonic 10 hole harmonica this doesn't match up.

The proper layout would be

C E G C E G C E G C D G B D F A B D F A

Someone else has pointed this out. If someone wants to help me with formatting I could help fix this article, but I just don't have the formatting skills. Nacoran (talk) 19:17, 18 September 2021 (UTC)