Talk:Rick Derringer

Photograh used in article
That photograph of Roadwork does NOT feature Rick Derringer - that is Edgar Winter and Jerry Lacroix on the cover...

(And it was therefore removed)

Why does Monomaniac redirect here?
Probably because the last track on the Derringer album, "If I Weren't So Romantic ..." is entitled Monomania. It featured slowed-down vocals of the type ZZ Top were to later use on their song Manic Mechanic. 50.111.62.5 (talk) 23:56, 8 December 2017 (UTC) Monomania ≠ Monomaniac

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

TV Talk Show Band
Didn't Rick et al also provide music on a talk show on TV? I seem to recall seeing them on one (the show wasn't very good). 138.162.128.54 (talk) 18:42, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: 'Band Records'
Your article says that Hang On Sloopy was released on 'Band Records', which is a mistake. The McCoys were signed with 'BANG' records. I (Gary Cost) was the drummer for The Luvons, one of their front bands. THE MCCOYS - HANG ON SLOOPY - BANG RECORDS -1965 http://bsnpubs.com/nyc/bang/bang.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.30.236.40 (talk) 03:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Band name history
This paragraph - "After starting The McCoys, Rick changed the band's name to "The Rick Z Combo", and then "Rick and the Raiders". After recording "Hang On Sloopy", it was decided that the original name was best, and The McCoys were reborn." - is completely at odds with the same information in the article on the McCoys here at Wikipedia. I don't have the time right now to research this out. I am tempted to conform it to the info as presented in the article on the McCoys, but have no knowledge that doing so would be the "accurate" version. Perhaps the original author could clarify this information. Thoughts?THX1136 (talk) 15:47, 5 August 2014 (UTC)


 * On the podcast Amps & Axes, episode #079 (June 6th, 2015), Derringer states that the band's name came from the Ventures' song of the same name, which was the first song he learned to play with Dennis Kelly. http://www.ampsandaxescast.com/ DavidRavenMoon (talk) 16:53, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Everyone??
"One of the first opportunities for everyone to see them play 'live' came when they opened for The Rolling Stones on the entire 1966 American Tour." Who is the "everyone" mentioned in this sentence? Is this a different "everyone" from those mentioned in the following sentences? It seems that it would be better stated that this was an opportunity for many across America to see the band live. Thoughts?THX1136 (talk) 16:00, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Birth Name?
The article on the McCoys identifies Rick Derringer as being born "Richard" - here it is Ricky. Can't be both so which one is accurate? If I get the time I'll research this out and change it to the appropriate one.THX1136 (talk) 16:02, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I can't imagine anyone christening their child Ricky. It has to be Richard, abbreviated to Ricky. I will change it unless some authoritative source shows otherwise. DavidFarmbrough (talk) 19:03, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Um, even a single source would be a good idea? I've added one of those annoying "cn" tag thingies. Sorry. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:59, 29 June 2021 (UTC) p.s. there is a book source here but it doesn't really say?

Frankenstein
Ronnie Montrose plays guitar on Edgar Winter's Frankenstein, not Derringer. DavidRavenMoon (talk) 16:47, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Foreclosure
Am opening this section for comment on whether Derringer's foreclosure should be included in article. The material is well-sourced, and, in my opinion, relevant, if for nothing more than the quote attributed to Derringer. Derringer himself has been attempting to revert this inclusion, and, presumably via an IP edit, has made what could be perceived as a legal threat. Mystic Technocrat (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2017 (UTC)


 * I am the one who originally included it, so obviously I think that it's relevant, and perhaps should even be broken out into its own section. Regardless of whether or not Rderringer (talk) or the multiple anonymous IP edits (all coming from the Bradenton, FL area referenced in the original article) are *actually* Derringer or just someone with a clear bias, this information is clearly relevant. For example, if you look at Wayne Newton's page, there is an extensive section on his financial struggles due to bad real estate investments. Plenty of other musician's pages such as Fantasia Barrino include information about foreclosures. This is an encylopedia afterall, not an advertising space. 161.113.11.16 (talk) 21:28, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Absurd, this is NOT an encyclopedia. It is in no way relevant. It should be removed. The artist personal financial issues should only used if it affects his career. This is not the Enquirer. Newtons page the same. I'm deleting it until there is consensus under "Do no harm". 104.34.203.182 (talk) 08:41, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Rick, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Please see WP:NOT and specifically WP:PROMO. This information is clearly relevant. 98.115.77.114 (talk) 14:34, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

From the users talk page there seems to be a history of disruptive editing. 104.34.203.182 (talk) 08:48, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

"Material about living persons should not be added when the only sourcing is tabloid journalism." The user did a search of public records, NOTHING ELSE" 104.34.203.182 (talk) 08:55, 17 February 2017 (UTC)


 * You must be Derringer himself? Regardless, the sourcing is not tabloid, and acceptable.  38.88.149.138 (talk) 15:20, 2 March 2017 (UTC)


 * i hope Derringer sues ---and shoots--- all of you. 2600:1:F11B:C8D9:C30:9CED:D5D5:FE0A (talk) 23:24, 3 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Nope, not Derringer but you arew obviously someone with a gripe against him. 104.34.203.182 (talk)
 * I have zero gripes with Derringer, and had nothing to do with the original placement of the material. But nice try, Bozo.  38.88.149.138 (talk) 22:43, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Just as the foreclosure on Ace Frehley's house was part of his entry in Wiki, so it should be with Derringer's.50.111.62.5 (talk) 17:27, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

2000s; Satanism
The 2 sources cited after the "embrace of Satanism" statement don't relate to or support this probably libelous paragraph. The paragraph should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrSteveOB (talk • contribs) 14:55, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It's now gone? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

drug abuse
He had some pretty big problems with this in later life, before finally kicking it. There are numerous Reliable Sources about this. . . 104.169.36.161 (talk) 23:21, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Why not provide one here, or even two, for discussion? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:32, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

"homosexual love affair" vandalism
Someone keeps adding the following "fact":

''It was during this time Derringer engaged in a notorious, drug-fueled homosexual love affair with Kenneth "Rotten Rita" Rapp as well as multiple flings with other Factory regulars. Subsequently, Lou Reed famously dubbed Derringer "The Bus" because, in Reed's words ". . . everyone got a ride." Years later, Derringer said of the era, "It was rock 'n' roll, man."''

They include a citation, some book in Italian called "Sexy Rock" but you can search through it on Google Books and the quote doesn't appear once. I did a search but this allegedly famous quote from Lou Reed doesn't seem to appear anywhere else either. I cannot find any additional corroboration. I'm calling BS. 207.38.200.142 (talk) 01:11, 26 November 2017 (UTC)


 * I opened a ticket here: Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard please contribute to it. Jim1138 (talk) 03:41, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Sourcing requirements
This article is a biography of a living person and includes references to other living people. While all articles on Wikipedia are expected to conform to verifiability requirements, with reliable, published sources to support all content, the standard is very high in biographies, and no contentious material may be added about living persons without a direct citation. This article has been semi-protected again due to further violations of the biographies of living persons policy. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:04, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
 * While the recent edits by the IP editor certainly included some that could be considered contentious, a good portion of them were not, as they appeared properly sourced, and added relevant info. I will see if I can make heads or tails of what could possibly be useful.  That said, agree with protection.  71.5.115.194 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 16:38, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Text says b in Celina Ohio, raised in Ft Recovery
Text says b in Celina Ohio, raised in Ft Recovery. However, info box in upper right says he was born in Ft Recovery — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C2:4E02:9580:39A8:67EE:4865:CCF7 (talk) 18:38, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Well spotted. I have amended accordingly to show his correct birth place as Celina, Ohio with an accompanying reference from AllMusic which supports that information. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:31, 22 April 2024 (UTC)