Talk:Rickey Henderson/GA1

Rickey Henderson GA Review
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Hi! I will be reviewing this article for GA. In reading through it I see some problems. *Single years are not to be wikilinked per WP:CONTEXT. The idea is to have as few useless links as possible so that your important links stand out. (I see they are all linked to years in baseball. Sorry)
 * The prose is very choppy and the paragraphs are too short. It would help to combine some of the short paragraphs into one.
 * All of your reference citations must have a publisher. None of the reference links should be in all caps. Change the ones that are all caps (I saw at least one) to regular caps.
 * Quotes should not be in italics, whether they are in a quotebox or not.
 * The WP:LEAD could be longer and include some statements about his retirement, his personality, and perhaps more about his legacy.
 * One of Rickey Henderson's quotes needs a reference (the first one under Legacy).
 * I fixed the quotes and combined some of the paragraphs to reduce the choppiness. &mdash; Mattisse  (Talk) 17:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Please note that I am working on the references and have fixed the majority of them. I would like to see this article finally succeed in a GA nomination, but I also have a few concerns that I think should be addressed before it is promoted:
 * Reference 19 doesn't cover the majority of the information in the paragraph. ✅
 * The third paragraph in the "Career milestones" section is unreferenced. ✅
 * Henderson is improperly referred to as "Rickey" several times (it should be full name or last name only). ✅
 * I'm not convinced that Answerbag is a reliable reference, as it appears to be a site where anyone can post information. ✅
 * Much of the information in the "Records" section is unreferenced (it looks strange with about 30% referenced).
 * The entries in the "Highlights and awards" table are inconsistent. The statistic should be given in all or none of the rows, not just the final three. ✅
 * One of the pictures in the Yankees section has no caption. ✅
 * Reference 62 (Armchair GM) is not reliable, as it is a Wikipedia mirror site. ✅

Like I said, I'm working on getting the article through the review, but I think it's important that these are dealt with as well. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

A few more comments
 * I agree with you and have been noticing your hard work. The nominator User:Timneu22 has stated on his talk page that he does not have time to work on the article. I appreciate your taking an interest in the article and hope it can pull through to GA. &mdash; Mattisse (Talk) 14:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All references need publishers.
 * Especially in the last section, time frames need to be given. There are frequent statements such as "He is" when something like "As of 2008" is needed.
 * The problem of time frames in the last section remains. Perhaps if the section were called Career milestones 2008 or something to bring attention to the time frames, as these records may not last forever. &mdash; Mattisse  (Talk) 17:01, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I got the "Highlights and awards" section referenced, with the exception of "Major League times on base leader". To be honest, I've never heard of this statistic before. I'm sure it exists, but is it notable enough to include? None of the major sites include it. If it stays, does anyone know where to find a reference for something like that? GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:12, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
 * There are enough "Higlights an awards" that it seems to me you can leave out the iffy ones, especially any that are unreferenced.

Comments
 * Some of these references are not WP:RS, for example http://www.babeslovebaseball.com/2007/10/new-man-of-playoff-steal.html is a forum.
 * Also, all references need publishers. There are several that do not have them.
 * Career milestones 2008 or something to bring attention to the time frames. Also http://www.babeslovebaseball.com/2007/10/new-man-of-playoff-steal.html is a forum. It needs to be removed and another source used or the information removed from the article

I replaced the forum reference. I also added a time frame to a couple of statements in the milestones section. I looked over the section, and it all seemed to clarify that the records are as of 2008. I'm a little bothered by the "Records" section, as several of the entries are unreferenced. Looking at the ones without references, though, they all seem to be listcruft that doesn't add anything to the article (Most Seasons by a non-pitcher since 1900???). GaryColemanFan (talk) 20:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Why don't you just remove those that are unreferenced. They do not seem that important and there are plenty or well-referenced records and milsestones, etc. &mdash; Mattisse  (Talk) 22:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)