Talk:Ricky Valance

Needs work
This page seriously needs some work done on it. I've removed some obvious POV but don't know enough about the guy to improve the page much further.

perfectblue 13:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

After checking over this directly with Ricky Valance, this article is correct, but shall be updated with more information about the artist in the near future. --Seadogz (talk) 00:30, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

i don't know much about RV, but surely the meat of the article is the covering of 'tell laura i love her' and its subsequent success, and the light this throws on a corner of British attitudes and popular culture at the time. Daiyounger (talk) 23:18, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Possible copyright problem
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Birth year
Reliable sources in the past have given his birth year as 1939, but according to the BBC here he was 84 at the time of his death, so (assuming the same date of birth) he would have been born in 1936. Obviously, it's commonplace for singers and so on, and their agents, to knock a few years off a performer's age, and the 1936 date fits better with all the things he is supposed to have done before starting his singing career - but, we need confirmation of one date or the other, and consistency in the article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:19, 13 June 2020 (UTC) PS: OK, there do seem to be reliable sources giving 1936 - notably this, which I think must have had his approval - so I'll change the article. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

PPS: It seems likely that he was the David R Spencer, born April 1936, mother's maiden name Lewis, registered in Newport. Not a WP:RS of course. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:21, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Place of death
The Times obituary published on 15 June states that he had settled in Lincolnshire at the time of his death. Navrally (talk) 21:23, 15 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Plenty of sources say that, but they don't say that he died there - although some anonymous edits have.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:17, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Stage name
The obituary in The Guardian has a slightly different version of the origin of Valance's stage name from the one currently in the article. JezGrove (talk) 21:00, 16 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Yes - I misread the original source here, so have now corrected it. Sorry! ... and thanks for noticing it.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:34, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * PS: Presumably, the horse racing trainer concerned was Lieutenant-Colonel Guy Richardson Aymer Vallance (1908-1983), mentioned here, who thereafter seems to have been nicknamed "Ricky". Not a WP:RS though!   Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:43, 16 June 2020 (UTC)  PS: "40678 Lieut. Guy Richardson Aymer Vallance. Lt. 30th August 1931. Played Polo for the KOYRIFs Polo Team. Major 30th August 1945. Race horse trainer after leaving the army. Died 1983, Devizes, Wiltshire."  Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:48, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ghmyrtle - looks like a promising lead. JezGrove (talk) 21:54, 16 June 2020 (UTC)