Talk:Ridable miniature railway

Comments
It looks a lot like we need to create a List of article. Comments? Rklawton 13:12, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I added a link on the great lakes live steamers I belive they run on 7 1/2 gague track if I am mistaken please correct it thanks Jeff.j 21:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

With the large number of listings of railways in the USA, wouldn't it make sense to have it's own list? "UK" and "Rest of the World" just doesn't seem right. Squirrelhollow 21:57 UTC June 19, 2007

it seems that alot of the places listed under uk railways dont have links to thier wikipedia pages, do they need to be put on or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigerlemurguy (talk • contribs) 15:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
 * By all means link them, it's a basic requirement of Wikipedia to link articles where relevant. Mjroots (talk) 13:21, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I added under 15inch (rest of the world) the Springbank Express in london ontario, i drive it. 23:03, 13 June 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.74.123 (talk)

Same thing
on the global blacklist''
 * Barking Park Miniature Railway, Barking, Essex (Now Closed). Being relaid in gauge, re-opening Easter 2009.
 * Barking Park Light Railway: Re-opening Easter 2009

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Sortable Table
I've converted the existing list of railways to a single table as the increasingly cumbersome list feels that it's crying out for such a thing. I can see however that all might not approve. Here are my thoughts.

Pros
 * Can now sort entire list alphabetically
 * Can now sort by country to allow listing, for example, all railways in Australia
 * Consistency of format of name/location/reference/notes
 * More consistent with other 'lists of' pages

Cons
 * Makes editing a particular entry more cumbersome
 * Makes the page somewhat monolithic

Notes
 * Sorting by gauge doesn't work numerically. Someone with better wikitable knowledge than me could easily fix, I bet
 * Should the countries have the country string as well as the flagicon?
 * Some entries are in there twice/more as they have multiple gauges. Is there an easy solution via clever tabling?

The primary decision is whether to retain the 'by gauge' lists as well. I would say not given that the two lists will drift apart meaning the info is only in one or the other. I've left them there because others may prefer that list...

Smb1001 (talk) 13:32, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Having both the table and the list in this article is redundant and only one should be kept. Personally, I like the new, more-efficient table you made, so I'd say keep that one and delete the lists. I don't think it will happen, but hypothetically if someone liked the lists, they can always add them back using the edit history.  Jackdude 101  ( Talk ) 23:49, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Michigan AuSable Valley Railroad
Ongoing discussion FYI. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 03:39, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * The discussion is now closed and the result was Keep. Jackdude 101  talk cont 22:05, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

New articles
The Miniature Train at Monarch Park, Miniature Railway at Silver Lake and Midland Beach Railway Company should occasionally be added, please. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 07:34, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Since the table in the article is sorted by track gauge, do you have that info available for the first two? If so, add that info to the articles and I will add them to the table. Jackdude 101  talk cont 19:43, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * I have searched for the gauge, but couldn't find it. I personally cannot guess it from the photos. Searching for the gauge of the Little General in Travel Town Museum might be the best option. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 21:58, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
 * This isn't 100% definitive by any means, but according to Steamlocomotive.com, the only gauge noted for Armitage-Herschell locomotives at the turn of the century was gauge. Also, per the same website, Cagney, Armitage-Herschell's main competitor with park trains, made trains in  gauge most often.  Jackdude 101  talk cont 01:51, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this matches what we can see on the photo. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 05:48, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for adding them to the list. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 17:21, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Dampf-Bahn-Club Sprockhövel --NearEMPTiness (talk) 16:17, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Did you know ... that the Miniature Railway Company in 301 Broadway, New York, produced various types of diminutive railways which were in operation in many parks throughout the world around 1900? --NearEMPTiness (talk) 20:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikivoyage
People interested in this article might be interested in the related travel guide at our sister project, which is voy:Miniatures, dioramas and scale models. There is also a page at voy:Tourist trains. User:ShakespeareFan00 is trying to determine whether there is enough material to create a dedicated travel guide for rideable miniature railways. If you're interested in sharing your opinion (or helping out), see [https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Travellers%27_pub#Miniatures,_dioramas_and_scale_models#Miniature_railways_and_%22Grand_Scale%22_railroads_and_Buyers_guide_for_model_collectors? this discussion]. If you'd like to know more about how Wikivoyage works, then voy:Wikivoyage:Welcome, Wikipedians explains some of the differences. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:22, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Renaming
This is a list, shouln't it be "List of Ridable miniature railways" ? --Io Herodotus (talk) 02:45, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Good question. Peter Horn User talk 15:47, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

6 1/4 inch gauge
$6 1/4$ in gauge would be a new gauge (we have no article yet using this one). Is there a source proving that this size actually exists? If so, we can add it to the Track gauge list. .-DePiep (talk) 09:00, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


 * $6 1/4$ in gauge is quite rare. The only location I know of that has this gauge, is the Nelson Society of Modellers in New Zealand: https://www.nelsonmodellers.org.nz/about/history. Considering it's rarity, I suppose it it's really worth adding it to the Track gauge list. .-TomMort1 (talk) 10:49, 7 November 2018 (NZDT)
 * Not just "rare": unique indeed! This is the first instance we see in both en-wiki and de-wiki (German wiki, which hads a big list too). Your source proves it exists (it was defined). I will add it to the Track gauge "defined track gauges list"; your source is decisive. Could you add this source to the article? -DePiep (talk) 22:18, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * $6 1/4$, cool thanks for that. I will add it to the sources as soon as I can .-TomMort1 (talk) 15:48, 7 November 2018 (NZDT)

What is really the minimum gauge
What is really the minimum gauge that makes it ridable for an adult? would it be ? Peter Horn User talk 00:15, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I would appreciate your take on this. I would even take as the minimum ridable railway for an adult. Peter Horn User talk 15:58, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I am not familiar with these railways. Browsing the table in (sorted), I found Barton House Railway having, and a picture proving Adult Capacity :-) --- Oops, that's a 7 1/4 gauge. here their site shows the 3.5 in gauge. Maybe the sources also can clarify whether the track is used this way. (Personally, I will not make my HO-scale Märklin available for even child transportation!). -DePiep (talk) 16:12, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think I found the answer in Rail transport modelling scales. appears to be the minimum ridable and Ridable miniature railway should mention this. Peter Horn User talk 16:40, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Fine, though the webside I linked to definitely states & shows that a 3.5-inch gauge does take passengers. That's a source then? -DePiep (talk) 16:44, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I reread that table carefully. It actually mentions as the minimum. Go figure. Peter Horn User talk 16:56, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just noticed that you forgot to "copy and paste" that link. I added a file from another article. Peter Horn User talk 21:00, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The link is there since 16:12. -DePiep (talk) 21:18, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * My expected a link to an outside source. My misunderstanding. Peter Horn User talk 22:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * With there being quite a few adult carrying 3.5 inch lines, I'm pretty sure that it counts. Wikipedia claiming otherwise would seem bizarre! Neith-Nabu (talk)

Italy
I would like to suggest this track in north Italy for adding at the main page: https://parcoesposizioninovegro.it/altre-attivita-vapore-vivo/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjEyPkw5OvCHn9veTijVNHA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.160.162.163 (talk) 17:42, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Tunnel
Willans Hill Miniature Railway in Wagga Wagga, layout viewable here at pin (A) has its own tunnel, which passes under Lord Baden Powell Drive, a public road. They make no special claims for it, but I suspect this may be unique. Any ideas? Doug butler (talk) 20:52, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

New and dead railroads
The Annetta Valley and Southern railway in the USA has shut down due to money issues. Theres a new one in the works, but its not ready yet. 2603:8080:F603:71B3:71C6:4E9F:DA3D:7EA2 (talk) 13:34, 4 July 2023 (UTC)