Talk:Riddler

Authorship
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 * Wikipedia. (Check the history.) --Chris Griswold 17:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Respone to "Is He Murderous?"
At one point the article says that in The Batman, Riddler unites with the Joker and Penguin to murder Batman. I just saw that episode today and I got the impression they were just trying to capture and unmask him.
 * I saw it today as well! We're twins! --Chris Griswold 06:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, in the 1966 movie as well as in Batman Forever, he does indeed plot to kill Batman (in fact he becomes obsessed with the idea and tries very hard). I am not sure about the comics, or the animated series, though. Rifter0x0000 (talk) 12:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Most incarnations of the Riddler are not murderous but the one in The Batman seems to have to problem with it. He attempted to kill Julie but he was stopped.

Generally, the Riddler of the comics wasn't particularly murderous, since he got more thrills from trying to defeat Batman (and everyone else) on an intellectual level. In fact, for a very long time, Batman regarded him more as a nuisance than a genuine threat. However, as the years have gone on, the Riddler has, at times, turned very nasty or even downright insane. In Dark Knight, Dark City, he discovers an obscure and violent religious text which he uses as a basis to try and kill Batman, but not before putting him through some tests, one of which involved forcing a ping-pong ball down a baby's throat. He even kills some of the henchmen he brought along to help him. So, he can be quite murderous if driven nuts enough. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.48.155 (talk) 15:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Dark Knight, Dark City doesn't quite count as he was possessed by a demonic entity at the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.214.49.106 (talk) 12:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

HUSH
You do not "suffer" cancer, you contract it. You can suffer from it after you have contracted it.

Writer's problem
The series' creators admit they didn't use him very much because his character often made story plots too long, too complex, or too bizarre.

The writers described this problem with the Riddler in an article in Comics Scene#43, published by Starlog.[citation needed]. Enda80 13:16, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Enda80

Just Now A Toy Sells Death
Does this actually have any meaning and where was it in the game? I never saw it.

Rumors
Unless it's CONFIRMED, there should be no mention of Riddler being in The Dark Knight. If it can't be cited with a reliable source, it can't be in the article. DurinsBane87 06:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Filmick and freezedriedmovies reported it. I'm not very familiar with either website so I don't know how reliable they are. 75.153.231.20 05:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Then that's not a confirmation. Get direct information, not second-hand or worse. Wryspy 06:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

There are unconfirmed claims that The Riddler will be in The Dark Knight or the third Nolan film (assuming there will be one), but as of now those are rumors and it is confirmed that Anthony Michael Hall is NOT Edward Nashton, he is reporter Mike Engel.AuthorNeubius —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.185.133.255 (talk) 02:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Johnny Depp
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/showbiz/2008-08/01/content_6895691.htm Is this a believeable reference? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.69.80.14 (talk) 22:33, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No. it's just a regurgitation of al lthe other rumors which have circulated all summer. ThuranX (talk) 00:15, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

TNBA's Riddler
Can I add this picture of the Riddler's appearence in "Knight Time"?Image:RiddlerTNBA.jpg Also, since it is from a Superman episode, maybe I should put in one from Judgement Day?Claycrow 17:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * First, non-free images shouldn't be posted directly to talk pages. The call, as edited above, should be used.
 * Second, we've already got the major variations covered, so adding the other minor ones would only be decoration, something that cannot be supported by a fair use rationale. - J Greb 22:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Post-Hush era
There is hardly any information about the character's exploits before the Hush story ark. I'd contribute the information myself, but honestly, I know next to nothing about the Riddler. Anyone else want to take care of this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DCfanatic (talk • contribs) 21:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Mr Reese Redirect
Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.202.9 (talk) 13:21, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Edward Nashton
ThuranX: Read the names and variations section. It states that several adaptations including Countdown claim The Riddler's real name is Edward Nashton, and that Edward Nigma is an alias. Is this still not enough evidence to include Edward Nashton in the opening sentence of the article? (Edwardnashton (talk) 06:31, 23 July 2008 (UTC))


 * Edward Nashton was introduced as an identity in the mid 90's, as I recall. An issue of the Question, to be specific. The accuracy of this name as being "real" depends upon who is writing which particular story, and varies from medium to medium. Nigma, on the other hand, was introduced at the inception of the character in Detective issue 140 by the actual creator of the character. Nigma stood as the sole "real" name of the character for about five decades. Both Nashton and Nygma have been around for for a fraction of this time without any full commitment to either. Nashton (and Nygma) should be mentioned in the article, but as for the character overall, Nigma is the original, and the most consistently used.Theplanetsaturn (talk) 08:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * And that's why 'Nashton' is lsited as an alias in the infobox, and that's enough. Burden of change is on the changer. ThuranX (talk) 16:20, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required
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International names section
Do we really need this section? We don't offer that for all the different fictional characters on Wikipedia. Those who really want to know can look at the links along the side of the page. Further, not one is actually cited, nor does the section assert a particular notability. As such, I'm removing it. Please comment here before restoring. ThuranX (talk) 05:20, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson wanted to play the Riddler? Give me a break. I clicked the link to the cite reference and it was just the main page of Chicago Times, I'm deleting it. This was obviously a joke.

--p4 (talk) 22:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)p4poetic--p4 (talk) 22:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * No, sorry. It's not a joke, but a dead link to a real citation. A quick google search shows comments about it as far back as 2003, so it's clearly not some hoax, but a dead link. As such, I've restored it. ThuranX (talk) 22:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

"The Batman" Riddler
This is the first time I've seen the Ridder from the "The Batman" series, and yet my first impression, despite not even being a hardcore Naruto fan, is that he looks surprisingly like Orochimaru (Naruto). Does this or does this not deserve a mention in the article? --Antoshi~! T 11:33, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


 * it does not. Your personal feeling is that there's a similarity. There's no citation of anyone involved in the creation of the show that a similarity, intended or accidental, exists, nor a comparison from any outside reliable reviewer. ThuranX (talk) 17:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Just Wondering
I noticed that if you abreviate his first name, it spells E. Nigma. I'm sure others have put this together, but I thought I'd mention it since I could ctrl-f find it on the article or the discussion page. --Daniel Berwick (talk) 02:49, 12 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It's not there because there's no good source for it. Find one, add it. ThuranX (talk) 17:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
 * wow; have you batmkan forever yet? wow; i never knew that his first name's first letter and his last name was enigma--Jakezing (talk) 17:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Eddie Nash?
I glimpse on Neil Gaimen's "Whatever", and Riddler said his name was "Eddie Nash". Is this true? (JoeLoeb (talk) 03:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC))

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Vertigo? What the?
The Question never had a Vertigo series. His series was part of DC's For Mature Readers line, as were most of the series that later became Vertigo titles, but it was never published by Vertigo. I'm going to move the information from that section to the appropriate place in the timeline. 59.167.188.242 (talk) 17:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Gary Oldman's remarks on Riddler
I can't find anywhere where Oldman said anything about the Riddler being a "cyberterrorist". The only stuff I have seen on Riddler being a cyberterrorist was fan speculation. This should be dropped from the page if there isn't an actual quote. Fardawg (talk) 18:52, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Question
Why is the page entitled only "Riddler" instead of "The Riddler"? I don't understand this, and would appreciate a clarification. Thank you. -- ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV 13  other crap 21:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Standard on the project to not use articles before names. Same reason it's Joker or Batman. ThuranX (talk) 05:53, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Is Question the hero similar to the riddler? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.112.215.50 (talk) 01:38, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

This article needs to be updated
I would love to update it (specifically the two-part arc in 698-99) but I had no idea what was going in that arc if someone who at least partly understands could update it it would be great!Hollister4Mayor (talk) 05:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

The Picture
While a Green Arrow cover picture seems a bit odd for a villain known for fighting the Batman...well, I went looking for other good pics I can't find them. We seem to have gotten the best (picture) of a bad situation here. But I recommend we keep looking. Lots42 (talk) 08:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

"Joker" by Brian Azarello - Damaged Hip
Passage deleted: "(revealed to have been caused by a previous encounter with the Joker, resulting in the Riddler getting shot in the hip)". I have gone over "Joker" by Brian Azarello and there is no mention of this in the graphic novel. Please cite reference to verify accuracy of this detail. NorthernDragon (talk) 00:16, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

IGN Rankings overused
Are these rankings really so authoritative? Why are they creeping into every article on popular culture? I suspect henchmen of Murdoch at work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plantinga radio (talk • contribs) 02:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Appearance in Gotham (TV series)
It may be in the best interest of the article to limit the amount of detail the character is provided in the section explaining his role on the TV series, Gotham. Unless his character is at the focal point of an episode, the mentioning of his appearance should be limited to his overall role in the GCPD. Since he seems to be a recurring character (albeit on the screen for only a minute each time), adding each appearance to the article may make the section longer than it needs to be. Dustman15 (talk) 22:53, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Superhero
I think Riddler can be included on this category, because, as we can see, several Marvel Comics' supervillains (like Sabretooth, Juggernaut and Magneto) are included on Marvel's superheroes list, because they have already helped the heroes at some histories (not brief alliances). So, since Riddler once teamed up with Batman, I put him on the list of heroes. But I think someone will not agree with that and try to remove it. What can I do.Brazilian Man (talk) 22:56, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

The Riddle that Stuck out (The Riddler's Story)
Edward Nygma (Nigma) A.K.A. The Riddler is one of Batman's Smartest foes. Edward Nygma was abused by his dad as a child and he would love to play word games and when he got older, he was into crime. Then some tragedy will occur in one of his stories, then turn into The Riddler. He would give hints or clues to where he goes next which would lead to his downfall and be put in Arkham Asylum with the other villains. Edward Nygma was one of the best Batman Villains of all time.

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The history of the Riddler
This means there have been countless retcons of him. (Although for the first 20-30 years, The Riddler, as with many comic book characters at the time, accumulated little history that carried over from one appearance to the next: he'd appear in one story, perform a crime, get caught & go to jail for a felony that in the real world would keep him behind bars for a decade or more, then appear in another story a few months later.) However, in discussing the history of The Riddler, it is unclear which version of the various statements pertain to. If I had to guess, I'd say what this article presents is the character as he was portrayed over the last two decades -- but barely a mention of what he was in the prior decades. And until this is included in this article, it will not be more than B-class at best. -- llywrch (talk) 20:36, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Nigma>Nygma
The historically accurate version of the name of the character is "Nigma". Nygma, Nashton, and all other versions are relatively modern and not universally used. I know Nygma is the best known due to films and cartoons, but again, it is not the primary identity of the character through the course of his history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.6.25 (talk) 06:59, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Check out this DC Who's Who entry from the mid-80's for confirmation - http://tessatechaitea.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-riddler-as-seen-in-batman-and-shit.html


 * Again, because people keep changing it, the Riddler's identity has predominantly been "Edward Nigma". Not Nygma and not Nashton. Those are relatively modern and not universal.

Real-world rise to prominence
It should be worth mentioning in the article in real-world perspective how the Riddler rose to prominence in the Batman mythos from relative obscurity: He had been a minor villain, who had appeared in one two-part story arc in the late 1940s, until he was brought back for one issue in 1965, which in turn happened to be used as the basis of the pilot for the 1960s Adam West TV series, which became phenomenally popular in its first season — which included a total of four appearances of the Riddler, played electrifyingly by Frank Gorshin, turning the character into a villain "star" during that season, making him an indelible part of the Batman landscape. 2601:545:8201:6290:7982:E2A6:133E:3203 (talk) 07:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * If you have the proper citations, then by all means.  Dark Knight  2149  06:31, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you; I was recommending that it be done, although I don't personally have the research resources handy to do it up proper. 2601:545:8201:6290:7982:E2A6:133E:3203 (talk) 13:25, 8 May 2020 (UTC)