Talk:Rifts (role-playing game)

Promise of Power date
Rifts and Rifts Promise of Power disagree on when the game was released.

Fan sites
The following 3 links seem to be people pushing their own fan sites, rather than relevant to the article at hand
 * The Primeval Rift CCG
 * REF Rifts Earth Division Homepage
 * The Rifts Highway

I have cut them for the mean time unless somebody makes a good argument for returning any of them. Brehaut 11:09, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Actually, that seems completely reasonable. 24.105.192.99 05:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I think personal websites should be removed as this is a article, not a place for pushing a personal site. If the link is relevant to the game its self then i think it should be kept. The above sites i am familiar with and they do not reflect on the article in question. Worldgate 03:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Riftrunner
Is this role playing game system the reason why the PC role playing game "Riftrunner" was named into "Beyond Divinity"? Alrik Fassbauer 21:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

It would seem that the name change is used to reflect that it is a sequel of 'Divinity Divine' or so I gather from this link. Worldgate 03:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Movie section outdated?
I noticed the movie section of this article is probably outdated. It talks about speculation about a Rifts movie from 2004, but has no additional confirmation as of today (Jan 2007). Perhaps this section should be amended or removed as it does not appear that a RIFTS film is actually in the works, at least not officially? Dugwiki 23:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it should remain even if it seems the movie will not be made. Perhaps if there is no other information forthcoming then it could be put in the past tense as part of history? Worldgate 02:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * When all is said and done, the only sourcing for this movie seems to be Palladium's own website or Siembieda's own assertions. That's not good enough.  The movie section had been tagged for nearly FOUR YEARS.   ῲ Ravenswing ῴ  09:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Palladium Embezzlement?
I'd like to suggest a topic on the financial blow that happened to the company. Someone stole money from the company over the years, including artwork. My writing skills suck so... Worldgate 03:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to Palladium Books? --Kralizec! (talk) 03:45, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Apparently I was, being unable to research for some reason. Seems clear enough to me. Worldgate 01:25, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Rifts Timeline
I think it would be fun/add to this Wiki entry if there was a chronology of events pieced together by the fans of the RPG for readers.

From 2089...to 107 PA (is that where the books are now?!?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.67.6.15 (talk) 19:51, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Citation for Vampires?
I'm unclear as to why the book by Cliff Melton is being cited in reference to Rifts vampires. Care to shed some light on it, WebWarlock, before I delete the edit for being not really relevant? ---Mr. Nexx (talk) 04:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Rifts Hawaii/Antarctica/Greece/Italy/Middle East
I fail to see how material in these two areas is listed in the Rifts article, as neither of these areas are detailed in the game and Palladium has shown no movement towards those areas. The listed sections seem to be fan created material. In addition, the material on Greece, Italy, and the Middle East are not canonical material at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Demonkarasu (talk • contribs) 18:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

bad links
This article is full of links that simply redirect back to this page, and are totally useless. I presume that they were legit links to stubs at one stage and that someone has consolidated them into this article without removing the links in the article itself, which I'm now going to do. Master z0b (talk) 01:04, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Rifts move
I noticed that this page was originally at this shorter name, and that it currently redirects here due to an IP edit in 2007 even though User:Gtrmp had redirected Rifts to Rift at some point. Should we just move it back? Bonechamber (talk) 15:33, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I would strongly recommend against it. While "Rifts" may have been redirected to "Rifts (role-playing game)" in October 2007, the article itself was moved to "Rifts (role-playing game)" in April 2006, a year and a half earlier. More than five years have since passed, and nearly all internal links to this article are for "Rifts (role-playing game)". If it was moved back to "Rifts", then "Rifts (role-playing game)" would itself have to become a redirect page – unless, of course, someone wanted to go into every article that had a link to "Rifts (role-playing game)" and change them all. That being the case, I don't see anything wrong with keeping things as they are. – Apo-kalypso (talk) 08:57, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Grammar Errors
There are a number of grammar errors in the article. The errors make the article difficult to read given that the most common problems are run-on sentences. In the event that the original author of the errors would be insulted by the significant number of edits, I did not want to start making changes without checking here first. I saw no point in performing corrections if the changes would simply be reverted immediately out of anger. Does anyone else have a similar opinion regarding the grammar situation in the article? -- D. Jstale 17:36, 12 Sep 2011 (UTC)
 * To date, I have not made as many contributions to this article as certain other editors and therefore cannot claim an equal share of responsibility for its content or interest in its future disposition. That said, I encourage you to proceed as you see fit. Wikipedia is a collaborative undertaking: no matter how much time or energy a user might spend on an article, it does not belong to them. If you believe that you can enhance the quality of an article – while adhering to Wikipedia guidelines, of course – then you are more than welcome to do so (in the event these revisions are likely to be significant, it is always a good idea to seek consensus, as you have done here). No reasonable user will reject any legitimate, constructive changes out of hand without attempting to engage you in some sort of discussion; should this happen, though, there is a process whereby burgeoning conflict can be resolved or, hopefully, prevented altogether. Best of luck to you. – Apo-kalypso (talk) 01:22, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Should there be a section on critical reception, or reviews?
I ask because RIFTS seems to be a bit controversial and polarizing in the RPG community, to a greater extent than other RPG systems and worlds, with the possible exception of F.A.T.A.L., is either loved or hated by gamers, and the latter group seem to take tremendous perverse joy in trolling the former.

Compare http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/classic/rev_4875.phtml, "The game's primary stat is Innocence, in the same way that's Call of Cthulhu's primary stat is SAN, or Rifts' primary stat is munchkin semen..." and the general tone of other reviews:

http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/15/15631.phtml http://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/wtf-dnd-rifts/1/ http://1d4chan.org/wiki/RIFTS http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/Rifts?from=Main.Rifts

with

http://wiki.rpg.net/index.php/Worst_RPGs_ever http://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/fatal-worst-rpg/1/ http://1d4chan.org/wiki/FATAL http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/TabletopGame/FATAL — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.164.169 (talk) 00:38, 19 June 2014 (UTC)