Talk:Right to petition in the United States

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The first one is broken.--Hodeken (talk) 08:45, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

The content is misleading and not with full disclosure...the "secrecy"_ thereto " trusteeship*"__dictate regulations, and it unfair practices to society thereto complaint cases and process... Remedy is being held hostage, under Federal terms and "subject mattets" forms". Remedy is nonexistent in USA because of unvoluntary agreement and commerce... I protest and disagree with the remedy process "orders", continue to dispute" matters in details and display under "petitioner" admission. Tiadhue (talk) 17:24, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Missing: The distinction between petitioning and lobbying
The founders made a huge distinction between petitioning and lobbying. Petitioning was a right. Lobbying was corruption.

Petitioning is communicating directly with the people you vote for. Lobbying is when a paid professional, such as a fancy lawyer or a retired judge or public official, lobbies on someone's behalf. To the founders, this was a completely taboo practice. Using some wealthy or famous person's reputation to sway public officials was seen as completely corrupt. See this article: https://priceonomics.com/when-lobbying-was-illegal/

After several decades with no lobbying, America had largely forgotten about its evils. After 80 years, the Civil War was such a traumatic event that it put the nail in the coffin of many assumed bits of history. If you look at the Wikipedia article on the history of US lobbying, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_lobbying_in_the_United_States, it doesn't start till after the Civil War. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randyastr (talk • contribs) 04:44, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

== Exclusionary Clauses. When politicians constrain the right of redress to ANY citizen, knowingly and willingly, by blocking access to the established right of redress of our government they violate the Constitution as well the spirit of America. I have very limited knowledge regarding the frequency of the application of these illegal clauses in legislation however, if even only ONE citizen is denied this right, we all suffer.one need to end. To date the most egregious ==

Ban the legislative use of Exclusionary Clauses, at every turn. 2600:387:0:80D:0:0:0:4D (talk) 21:50, 2 June 2022 (UTC)