Talk:Rin (InuYasha)

Rin (Inuyasha) should be merged into Rin (InuYasha)
Rin (Inuyasha) should be merged into Rin (InuYasha). -User:Dark Magician
 * Nice title/message differtiation :p Yes, I agree! Has it yet? Tyciol 09:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. I don't want Rin have the same fate as Tessaiga: being merged with Inu Yasha (character) and then all information about it is deleted. Moreover Rin is worthy enough to have its own page. 137.132.250.10 (talk) 14:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Rin Resectioning
I've just added a bunch of sections to make the previously cluttered information in the article more easily navigatable. I'd like to thank 69.166.48.213 for helping clean up after me, as well as adding some great info. Tyciol 09:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Err, actually I did read over one change you made to the Rin/Jakken relations here. I didn't have much info to go on (as I don't currently contribute much original, not considering myself a good enough fan of IY), but I notice that the addition replaced without including again some info from the original statement. It also seems to have information about Jaken that is not relevant to his relationship with Rin, it goes a bit too much into it. I'd like to consider changing this, and may in the future after further discussion hopefully with other Rin fans on this wiki Tyciol 09:09, 8 February 2006 (UTC)


 * No problem, Tyciol. I altered the section about Jaken and Rin to remove the commentary about Jaken; it was really just a bit of 'he's one to talk' tossed in for perspective.  As far as the original statement, I've never understood why people describe Jaken as lecturing Rin on the 'evils of InuYasha' or the 'greatness of Sesshomaru'.  I've watched the series ever since it began its run on adultswim, and I've never seen Jaken talk to Rin about InuYasha, and his 'lectures' about Sesshomaru amount to a few ranted exclamations before someone interrupts him.  So I feel that it misrepresents Jaken's relationship with Rin to leave that information in the article.  Or is this something from the manga that isn't demonstrated very well in the anime run?69.166.48.213 01:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, to be honest I'm basing it more on memory too, and while I have memory of him lecturing on Sesshomaru being better than Inu Yasha, I'm not sure if it was actually Rin he was doing it to. It's probably more pro-sess than anti-inu. Tyciol 05:34, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Why angry at Wolf Pack for Rin's death?
Let's talk about that, because I agree, it did seem out of character. He obviously doesn't care much about humans. Is it that it's a child? A girl? That she's cute? Perhaps he's disgusted with his fellow full-blooded canine demons for being so petty? Tyciol 08:09, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I changed this section, Tyciol; I'm just at a different location. I removed the part about scaring the wolves away; Sesshomaru got there long after the wolves had gone; he didn't even know that it was Koga's Wolf Demon Tribe that mauled Rin.  He didn't know it when he met Koga, and Rin has never told him; when she saw Koga again, and I'm not recalling the precise episode now, she was so frightened by the mere sight of him that she nearly lapsed into her terror silence again.  So far as the anime has established, Sesshomaru knows nothing beyond the fact that Rin was mauled to death by wolves in the forest.  His rage towards Koga if he knew is a plot device from the fandom.  69.166.48.213 14:55, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, because while I do remember the episode about the wolf pack trying to stop Koga from running into Sesshomaru and Rin (to avoid that very confrontation) it does seem that for now he doesn't know. Tyciol 20:17, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Did Rin die in the manga or did she come back to life? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tigerpaw rabbit (talk • contribs).


 * See, I knew people shouldn't put spoiler speculations. --Boffob 22:28, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Rin did die recently in the manga, but she ws brought back to life by Sesshoumaru's mother...
 * TakaraLioness 05:33, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey
Should it me mentioned about the time that like when the sounga possesed inuyasha that sesshumaru was running to save her and jaken? --&quot;P-Machine&quot; 04:42, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


 * No. That doesn't really have anything to do with Rin's characters, but you could put it in the Sesshomaru article instead. --Sango4ever 23:30, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Adoption
I know lots of fans consider Rin to be Sesshoumaru's adopted daughter, but there's nothing in the canon that suggests that's how Sesshoumaru feels about her or intends rise Rin until she's an adult. People just assume she'll just stay with him after the whole thing with Naraku is through, which may not be the case at all. I hardly call knowing someone for four to five months being adopted. I'm taking her out of that category if no one objects.--Slotedpig 15:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I do not care about that category, but I do think that Rin is Sesshomaru's adopted daughter. True, he does not support her; and he is reluctant to express any concern for her or for Jaken verbally. However, he did raise her from the dead and has acted swiftly to protect her when necessary, e.g. when she was abducted by Kagura and when she was abducted by the demon who sells children to other demons for food. One reason for stating that this is a parent-child relationship is to make it clear that it is not a male-female relationship (which some might otherwise suggest). JRSpriggs 10:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree that there isn't a romantic relationship between Sess and Rin. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. If she stays with him she can go back, but for now I took her out of that category. --Slotedpig 06:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)


 * So far there is neither a romantic relationship nor a parent-child relationship between Sesshomaru and Rin. The reason "for stating that this is a parent-child relationship is to make it clear that it is not a male-female relationship" is not valid, since you are making something up to prevent others from suggesting something else.  A Wikipedia article should be objective.  Natra 19:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * My reason for believing that Sesshomaru adopted Rin is, as I said above, that he protects her with great vigor when she is in danger. Also, he allows her to travel with him which I doubt that he would for someone he did not care about. Also, some scenes in the anime strongly give the impression that Jaken and Rin are Sesshomaru's children (although this is subjective).
 * Some people have made edits stating that there is a romantic relationship. These were reverted, but I felt that stating the true nature of the relationship would help to discourage those edits. I was not making the adoption up to argue against it. I was suggesting that mentioning the fact of the adoption was useful for that reason. JRSpriggs 03:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


 * These things you mentioned that Sesshomaru does for Rin are not unlike what Inuyasha does for Kagome, and I don't know of anyone that would say Inuyasha adopted Kagome. They show that Sesshomaru cares a great deal for Rin, just like Inuyasha cares a great deal for Kagome.  There are other things done by Inuyasha and Kagome that indicate romantic feelings between them, whereas there's nothing like that between Sesshomaru and Rin, but the lack of them doesn't make their relationship a parent-child one.  I never got the impression that Jaken and Rin are Sesshomaru's children (especially not the frequently abused Jaken), just that Sesshomaru really does care for them.
 * Yes, I've seen edits about a future romantic relationship, and they have been promptly reverted, as should be. Speculations, personal preferences and interpretations should not be included in a Wikipedia article.  Unless Rin calls Sesshomaru "father" or something similar, or someone refers to Sesshomaru as Rin's father or Rin as Sesshomaru's daughter in front of him, and he doesn't attack them or deny it, then IMO this "adoption" is also personal interpretation, not fact.  Natra 16:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, you have a point about protection not being just a function of parents. There is another facet of their relationship which supports it being a parent-child relationship &mdash; Rin is extremely obedient to Sesshomaru. By contrast, Kagome is not especially obedient to InuYasha. JRSpriggs 01:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * You see obedience as support for a parent-child relationship, whereas I see it in more of a leader-follower relationship. Different interpretations, neither is fact that should be put in the article.  Natra 23:24, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Based on the Anime and what I have read of what happens later on in the Manga I think their relationship is more like that of siblings -- her big brother and his younger sister, with some paternal aspects to it (sort of like how an older sibling may raise the younger ones after the parents have died). Argel1200 07:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I agree that their relationship most resembles that of siblings. Although with Sesshomaru, I just don't know what it is, considering how he's treated Inuyasha. Natra 16:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

in-universe perspective
Please be mindful as you edit of the English Wikipedia's guidelines on writing about fiction, and what Wikipedia is not. User:scbomber (only bombs in netrek) 18:43, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Name
Her name is never written in kanji only hiragana, so it doesn't have a meaning. It isn't necessary to write every possible meaning of the word rin. Rin only means cold if its written 凛 --Slotedpig 23:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Barefoot
Please discuss the relevance of that information while the protection stands. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 03:11, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Its an appearance section relevant to the character, so what fault is there at posting information relevant and true to her character? ManiacMikey 12:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Rin being barefoot is irrelevant to the character. Rin is not a barefooter and doesn't need a link to the barefoot page. Being barefoot in Sengoku Jidai is not a defining characteristic.

--Slotedpig 04:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree, being a barefooter requires the conscious choice to not wear shoes in a social context where shoes are mandated, or at least customary. Even the Wikipedia definition states that barefooters tend to live in developed countries. A minor in this particular setting cannot possibly be a barefooter, unless the show were to have that philosophy as an explicit or implicit theme. I don't have any objections to simply stating that she is always barefoot, but I don't think it's something particularly notable for any anime character.

--Lindentree 07:17, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Any fictional character must have distinguishing characteristics so that one can recognize him/her. The fact that one of them for Rin is being barefoot is LESS important than the small pony-tail in her hair. It is not worthy of a link to another article. Nor should there be any words of emphasis like "perpetually", "continually" or "always". Nor should you say that she hates footware or any such thing. There is no evidence for any such claims. The same applies to Kagura (InuYasha) and InuYasha (character) himself. Clearly, the author does not mean to promote barefootedness since she never mentions it explicitly and the main character, Kagome Higurashi, wears shoes. JRSpriggs 11:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Picture
Shouldn't a manga picture be used for Rin? Not only does it portray the original Rin, but with the anime series being over, it's not necessary or really relevant anymore. 74.70.7.38 22:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Reasons for keeping this picture: (1) a color picture is more attractive and informative than a black and white picture; (2) most people know the series from the anime rather than the manga; and (3) any change in a picture runs the risk of ending up with no picture at all because the gnomes who delete pictures will wipe out the one which is no longer being used and may also decide they do not like the new one. JRSpriggs 04:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Those are purely superficial reasons. Yes, having an anime picture doesn't necessarily hurt the article, but it no longer portrays the most accurate Rin. Wikipedia is all about accuracy. 74.70.7.38 17:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Just want to point out that the picture being discussed isn't from the anime as it is assumed in the debate. This picture is by Rumiko Takahashi from the official InuYasha artbook, at least according to Tiger cub who uploaded it. Natra 18:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Rin's Age
Concerning Rin's age, and that repeated citation:

Wikipedia does NOT support fan speculation. And that is EXACTLY what it is. That's a fan profile, same as any other. I can make a fan profile over the internet as well, saying she's 30. And that's just as reliable. We've never been given a specific age for Rin, and it's fair to say that she's no younger than 7 and no older than 10, but appears about 8 or maybe 9. Being "better than my guess" isn't true at all... 74.70.7.38 17:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with anon 74.70.7.38. I don't see how 7 is a better guess than 8 for Rin's age.  That particular fan site keeps being linked to for various Inuyasha characters' ages, what makes it any more official than other fan sites?  I thought it was fine when this page had 7-8 as the estimated age for Rin, since her exact age hasn't been given. 134.84.5.84 03:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)