Talk:Ringfort

Dates
The assertion that ringforts suddenly appeared in the early Christian era until about 600 ad is clearly ludicrous. This being in light of the fact that this ringfort in Cork has been radio carbon dated to 1100 BC

http://mitchtempparch.blogspot.co.uk/2008/11/hilltop-fort-from-1200-bce-uncovered-in.html

and they were all over Europe from much earlier than the Christian period. Add that to the fact there are plenty of giant ring like stuctures and henges such as the Giants RIng in Northenr Ireland - the idea that these kind of structures just sprang up in the Early Christian perriod just seems like a quack theory that ognores a lot of evidence.

Pictures of Ringforts?
Any have a few for this? Two or three different ones would go nicely with this article.--Jjcarroll 16:00, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Image license request received
I have received the photographer's GDFL release for these images: http://www.uvm.edu/~jleonard/Ireland/ringfort1.jpg & http://www.uvm.edu/~jleonard/Ireland/ringfort2.jpg

which he describes as being of the "Island of Inishmaan (the middle island of the three Aran Islands)".

Photos are uploaded and ready for markup at:



--Cro-Magnon 23:29, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Excellent Article!
You should try and get it on wikipedia as a featured article. Great work! Wish I could write something this good. Fergananim

Possible mistake?
In the section titled c.600 - c.900 AD, second paragraph, you state "The most common theory however is that ringforts are the product of the later half of the second millennium", shouldn't this bee the "latter half of the first mellennium"?

Caher Redirect
Caher was an older spelling, and is a frequent misspelling for the town of Cahir in County Tipperary. Would a disambiguation rather than a redirect not be more appropriate? RashersTierney (talk) 16:58, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. It might be better to convert Caher to a DAB page that links Cahir, Ringfort, Caher Island, Caher (mountain), etc. If you want to start I'll help. Guliolopez (talk) 17:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Visited the tutorials on DABs. Still trying to take it in. Not trying to avoid the work but this could take some time. RashersTierney (talk) 00:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK - Don't worry about it. I'll start the DAB and you can chip in. (Minor role reversal). Guliolopez (talk) 00:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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Citations and verbal diet needed.
This article needs to cite its sources. It seems, also, to have been written by a nineteenth century windbag. It's much too prolix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.17.229.2 (talk) 20:57, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Originally the Further Reading section was linked into the piece to provide references. They appear to have been removed now though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.141.70.51 (talk) 11:10, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Brilliant article, but what about Scotland ?
Redirected here when searching for the word Rath. This article claims Rath is anglicised Irish, but I'm sure I've come across it in a Romano British or Romano Celtic context, referring to the south of Scotland / Scottish Borders region. This would not be surprising, if the earliest Scots settlers had come from Ireland. Did they " bring their raths with them " ? John H. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.63.86.128 (talk) 11:55, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Brilliant article, but what about Cornwall & South Wales ?
I have reverted the article undone by 'Night of the Big Winds'. Rounds are a very significant type in Cornish and south Welsh archaeology and culture with a high degree of congruence with the Irish Rounds, likely stemming from direct Irish influence, and this should be made clear in the article, yes the weight of academic research may be with Ireland due to the better preservation of more impressive sites but this should not presume that the UK sites are of zero significance. If this were the case, the Danish, Swedish, German and Estonian examples should also be removed from the article - which I am not advocating.Truth regards not who is the speaker, nor in what manner it is spoken, but that the thing be true; and she does not despise the jewel which she has rescued from the mud, but adds it to her former treasures 11:51, 6 May 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nenniu (talk • contribs)
 * "There are also many in south Wales" - where? Andy Dingley (talk) 11:12, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Brilliant article but what about Europe?
This is a really good article on the Irish rath, but the term "ringfort" (or "ring fort") is used much more widely. There are thousands of in Europe and whilst many are hill forts, a vast number were built on the plains, for example, here are 50 in Lower Saxony alone. Perhaps this article should be renamed "Rath" and there should be a separate one covering all the other (non-Irish) ringforts, with the two linking to one another. --Bermicourt (talk) 18:46, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Brilliant article but what about....
Three questions in a row starting with this phrase. In short, my opinion is: feel free to add sections about the desired countries. The article is not excessive long, so an addition is well possible. A rewrite of the intro is also a good idea, to make it more universal instead of Irish. The Irish info can be moved to a separate section. Pinging User:Bermicourt and User:Nenniu. The Banner talk 18:57, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I understand ring-forts, and circular house structures, appeared in continental Europe before the british isles, so making the article more generic makes sense (User:Bermicourt and User:Nenniu) just someone needs to take responsibility on themselves. Nmclough (talk) 13:22, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Ringforts and Plague of Justinian Comment
I wrote something small on the plague of Justinian here- Mohill_(barony). This plague affected lot of Europe and a resurgence of ringfort building might have resulted. Needs more research but my article has two/three sources discussing this. Nmclough (talk) 13:22, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

South Wales?
The article lists South Wales as a prime site, but not one example from this area is included. On what grounds is South Wales prioritised over Germany, Estonia etc.? It's rather confusing. 82.26.212.186 (talk) 02:07, 12 January 2024 (UTC)