Talk:Riot

Town and gown
can someone explain what Town and Gown has to do with riots? its linked on the bottom. JoshDinger 00:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I removed the Town and Gown link. It seem irrelavent. Does anyone disagree?--Blackmage337 20:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

There were famous riots in Oxford twixt students and townsfolk in the 16th And 17th centuries. This is probably part of what that referred to.Jatrius (talk) 13:51, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Cronulla riots
How were the Cronulla riots not mostly or even entirely racially motivated? This needs to be expanded and explained, or the reference removed.--JackSlack 23:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

The police typically use non-lethal weapons is POV?
"The police typically use non-lethal weapons" I think this is highly inaccurate as in many cases the use of so-called non-lethal weapons has resulted in fatalities of rioters or people involved even in a non violent demonstration (march etc) (i think rubber bullets are not strictly non-lethal!). Eg during protests demonstrations and riots against the 1968 Olympic Games of Mexico more than 200 people were killed in Mexico City alone(Tlatelolco Massacre), this cannot be considered collateral damage. I don't think it's about each one's political view, riots do occur due to social disaccord, opression and poverty, so the article indeed needs to be expanded.


 * Some non-lethal weapons have ranges, in which they are lethal Talk User:Fissionfox 09:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually the correct term is "less-lethal" weapons. 198.35.1.230 14:56, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Counter-demonstration
why does "counter-demonstration" link here? if nobody objects I will create a section under the main Demonstration article and change the redirect to there, tho mentioning that clashes between demonstrators and counter-demonstrators are often the cause of riots. --Black Butterfly 20:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Major changes
Have re-written large parts of the article. Some things to bear in mind:


 * Wikipedia is NOT the place for discussion of the role of the police with regards to anything other than riots. statements such as "the police, in their role protecting private property / citizens' rights" (I forget specific text) are not useful
 * Nor is it a battleground on whether police actions during riots are justified. present information, do not judge.
 * Nor is this article a place to archive racial and religious conflict in South Asia.

I have re-written large parts of the intro in accordance with the first two points, and removed part of the list of riots with regard to the last (have retained the section but removed most entries - please don't read anything into what entries were removed and which were kept, it was largely random).

Hopefully this should go some way towards improving the status of this article. --Black Butterfly 20:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the countering riot police part seems like more of a guide on how to do it.
 * You probably should rid of that


 * Have moved the content into the police response section as it seemed more appropriate there; also re-worded parts of it.
 * In future, if you want an article editing, please do it yourself - that's what makes wikipedia work :). --Black Butterfly 12:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Suggestion
I think this article could do with short descriptions of a few notable riots, maybe comprising a paragraph or two. Separate sections by locality seems a little like overkill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mohanchous (talk • contribs) 13:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

What about "IMF riots" or "hunger riots"?
In the list of riot classifications i missed the IMF riots, typically caused around the world by price hikes in food and/or power. Just like the soccer riots mentioned these have a common cause and could earn a separate mention. Note that the french revolution started with the like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.178.81.252 (talk) 01:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Merger
An editor has proposed that Student riot be merged here. Beeblbrox (talk) 20:03, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The stated reason is "I suggest to either make this page meaningful or delete it, or merge the informational part into "riot". It is at best a stub."Beeblbrox (talk) 20:07, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure if being a stub is a reason for merger. I suggest for the article to be expanded, not merged! --SasiSasi (talk) 21:00, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am inclined to agree with you, I only put the tag on the article on another editor's behalf, but they haven't dropped by to offer a more explicit opinion, so let's forget the merger. Beeblbrox (talk) 22:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

List of notable riots
There are already a lot of articles relating to riots, hence its probably best if this article summarises and refers to the other relevant main articles. The region/country section should not be just a list of riots (then it becomes a list of notable riots), but a summary/overview (more like the US section, less like the Asia section right now). --SasiSasi (talk) 10:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD
The article entitled Timeline of riots and civil unrest in Calgary, Alberta is in the midst of an AfD. • Freechild   'sup?   06:17, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Off topic
Why in category off topic. riot is of great importance in most societys, when it does occur.Kesaloma (talk) 13:17, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Why do riots happen?
This is an important topic that I'm sure has been covered extensively by social psychologists and the like. Desperately in need of a section on Causes. One suggestion - don't just use modern social psychology, also use reasons from other traditions, maybe at least in some historical context, like what have been the explanations for rioting before, and how was it prevented and such... NittyG (talk) 17:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I would like to see this as well. Sephiroth storm (talk) 14:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Category:Riots vs. Category:Riots by type
Category:Riots by type is itself a category within Category:Riots. — Robert Greer (talk) 14:25, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Off topic
Wikipedia is not a place to argue that the media should be calling Occupy Wallstreet a riot. Removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.250.37 (talk) 05:08, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * According to the article history, there were three attempts to remove the paragraph in question, all of which were reverted. I can't wrap my head around that. I'm sorry, but Occupy Wall Street is not a riot by the definition in the article's lede, it's not a riot by its description in its own article, and it's not a riot by any sane person's understanding of the word. The paragraph was off topic. Deleted again. --Aurochs (Talk | Block)

Riot as legal definition
I'm surprised that there's no mention of riot as a criminal offence. All societies throughout history have had riotous behaviour, but the 19th century definition of riot as a specific offence has led to our modern concept of a riot and rioting.Gymnophoria (talk) 17:47, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite clear on what you're asking. The article already includes the legal definitions of rioting in two countries. Are you talking about the history of such laws? The history of rioting in general? --Aurochs (Talk | Block) 22:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

AfD at Definitions of Pogrom
Hi everyone, we'd be grateful for your thoughts at Articles for deletion/Definitions of Pogrom. Oncenawhile (talk) 18:40, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Proposal to categorize riots under protests
Please see Category_talk:Riots. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 08:11, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Anti-Trump riots
Many anti-Trump protests have lead to riots. So what's the big deal, Mx. Granger? TheBD2000 (talk) 21:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


 * While there have been a few incidents of rioting, the anti-Trump protests have by and large been peaceful, as is evident from the article Protests against Donald Trump. Including it as a "see also" link here is a clear attempt to push a non-neutral POV. —Granger (talk · contribs) 22:20, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


 * While that may have been the case in 2017, it most certainly is not the case today, is it? I think TheBD2000's post may have been three years ahead of its time!Clepsydrae (talk) 22:05, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

No section about Hong Kong?
129.97.124.62 (talk) 00:34, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

I'll leave this here
I plan on doing some work here. I'm using this link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/02/05/why-do-fans-riot-after-a-win-the-science-behind-philadelphias-super-bowl-chaos/ DaltoUprising (talk) 16:26, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Violence
Not everyone agrees with vandalism being violence against buildings. Frenzyface (talk) 10:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Unless enough people can convince Congress to change federal law, it's irrelevant what they believe. Commensurate with Article. IV. Section. 4. of the Constitution for the United States of America, we're a Republic, whereas the word "democracy" isn't mentioned once.  Federal law defines violence as follows:  "18 U.S. Code § 16. Crime of violence defined.   The term “crime of violence” means—(a) an offense that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the person OR PROPERTY of another, or (b) any other offense that is a felony and that, by its nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person OR PROPERTY of another may be used in the course of committing the offense."  Thus, any force used against -- yes, a building -- is violence.Clepsydrae (talk) 22:13, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah... Violence is negative behaviour. Bonthefox3 (talk) 08:47, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

"Mostly peaceful protest" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Mostly peaceful protest. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 26 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. signed,Rosguill talk 18:21, 26 September 2020 (UTC)