Talk:Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace

Bull and poor writing
Man, there is a trend in this article for personal views and projections based on interview tidbits. This article is not professional at all. As a Offspring fan and and an academic I can not approve of this article. 72.94.94.27 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 09:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC).


 * I have 2 links for you: Be bold and How to edit a page. Anyone can edit wikipedia, feel free to remove any unsourced information that is clearly not notable in the article. k-i-a-c  ( hitmeup  -  the past ) 11:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Possible tracks - Confirmed tracks
I think it should be renamed and have confirmed tracks listed. Currently it is open to "speculation" for failure to find a better term. Sir Teh 21:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Speculation on hidden tracks and spoken tracks
Although they may actually include them, there has been no source to say it will happen. Wikipedia has a policy against this, it's called Crystal Balling on WP:CRYSTAL. I don't think it should be included.++ aviper2k7 ++ 18:00, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Atom Willard
I talked to the bassist of Angels & Airwaves, and he stated Atom is NOT with the offspring. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.203.77.181 (talk) 22:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC).
 * This is not verifiable and is original research.++ aviper2k7 ++ 22:16, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

He Hasnt Left, he is just spending more time with Angels And Airwaves. Why Do u think its taking so long for the offspring album to be released. GunSlinger360 17:54, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * It seems he Has left. 80.28.202.37 18:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Release dates
I wouldn't count on these release dates. So I took them off. Especially when this page insists that the album will be released almost three months earlier in Japan. And I think that this spanish source is just an estimation. We should wait for some official sources.91.153.147.186 (talk) 21:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I agree. We should wait until something happens. Those release dates were actually hoaxes, they haven't even been confirmed by the band's official website or management. You never know albums, they just always get delayed and scrapped. This album doesn't even have a title yet anyway, so how could there a be a confirmed release date for an untitled album? Alex (talk) 01:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Just Wondering where was the June 14 release date sourced and confirmed for Australia? (talk) 20:42, 22 April 2008

Official website. --ThunderPX (talk) 20:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Personnel
Do NOT add Pete Parada to this section. This section is reserved for persons who actually contributed to the recording of the album, not the touring aspect of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.151.26.32 (talk) 21:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

There is piano on this album, who did it? That should be included. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SomeGuy11112 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Sales Certifications
I have removed all the unsourced certifications, many of which were questionable at best. I also found that many of the sourced ones used references which did not support their claims (with Canadian, Japanese and New Zealand certifications). Feel free to put back certifications, but they need sources. Hitthat (talk) 23:31, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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Reference named "riaa": From Americana (The Offspring album): "RIAA Database Search for Offspring" Recording Industry Association of America. From Sum 41: "RIAA Database Search for Sum 41" Recording Industry Association of America. Retrieved on February 4, 2009. From The Offspring discography: "RIAA Database Search for The Offspring" RIAA. Retrieved on January 4, 2009. 

Reference named "bpi": From Americana (The Offspring album): "BPI Database - Statistics - Certified Awards - Search for Offspring" British Phonographic Industry. From The Offspring discography: "BPI Database - Statistics - Certified Awards - Search for Offspring" BPI. Retrieved on January 4, 2009. 

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