Talk:Ritual family

"Ritual family"
Do the sources here use the exact term "ritual family"? I'm not familiar with that term as a synonym for liturgical rites. Wouldn't liturgical rite (a redirect to this article) be the better title, per WP:COMMONNAME? – Scyrme (talk) 01:24, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Great question, and to be fair I went back-and-forth on the naming convention of this article for the better part of a month. Ultimately, I accepted the usage present in the New Catholic Encyclopedia (the more modern of the academic sources I could find and presently reference 1 on the article). The term "ritual family" is a more precise term that refers to the "liturgical rites" in the complex sense treated by this article, distinguishing it from the notion of "liturgical rites" more properly treated by Rite (Christianity). Other modern academic sources utilize "ritual family" in order to produce this distinction. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:41, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. A less common name attested in the sources can be preferrable if it provides natural disambiguation. I've amended the hatnote to use "redirect" rather than "for", to acknowledge the ambiguity of the more common term and (hopefully) indicate why it's not being used as the title. (In case someone else has similar questions.) – Scyrme (talk) 02:04, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * A very welcome and appreciated solution. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:15, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

"Partial list of Christian liturgical rites"
There is a "list of Christian liturgical rites" at Christian liturgy, which is the reason why a number of redirects point there. Should it be moved here or perhaps split into a list article independent of both? – Scyrme (talk) 02:22, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * My feeling is that it ought to spun off into a separate list. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:30, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I've tagged the list for splitting and started a topic regarding that at Talk:Christian liturgy. – Scyrme (talk) 18:11, 26 April 2023 (UTC)