Talk:Ritwik Ghatak

The statement is not true
Ghatak's stature among Bengali directors is probably second only to that of Satyajit Ray.
 * The statement is not true, many bangali film lover consider Ghatak's stature equal to or even higher than Ray's for his greater genius. It may proper to rewrite as Ghatak's stature is considered equal to only that of Satyajit Ray--Gokul 12:42, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
 * either way it is not provable, anyway good luck for that Jeroje 21:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)jeroje

A small technical error
A small technical error, Ritwik Ghatak was born in Dhaka in East Bengal (now Bangladesh). Well, he was born in Bengal ... East Bengal existed as an entity was only between (1905-1911), (1947-1954). --Ragib 21:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Ghatak and commercial cinema
The article gave the impression that art cinema was all there was to Indian cinema. I gave a link to the main Indian cinema article and elaborated on Ghatak's outsider status.

I believe that he was very much part of the Calcutta left-leaning or Communist art scene. I know very little about those folks, so someone else would have to write it, but I think some mention of that milieu would also help put him in perspective. I hope that doesn't sound as if I'm condemning all those folks; I don't share their views, but I think it should be possible to write an NPOV overview of the Calcutta bohemians. Zora 03:01, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

First of all he left the communist party in the 60s even after the requests of then chief minister of not doing so and also his critique of ipta and naxalite movement created resent but yes he disliked market domination and borgeoise frameworks of mind and life Samx don (talk) 09:50, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

My contribs...
Like promised, I'll work on this article by adding info and references, but unfortunately I won't have time before the 10th of this month. In my opinion, it needs to be referenced if we want to get it to FA status (which would be nice). I've seen all of his films mutliple times (apart from Jukti tokko golpo) so I'll create/expand those as well. --Antorjal 03:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Just got done with Nagarik, will write/revise the other seven films in succession and then work on this article.--Antorjal 02:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

no time
I have no real time to work on this. however, Ghatak deeply influence Mira Nair, which probably can go in the legacy section--ppm 23:31, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Jukti Takka
the translation of the name jukti takka aar gappa should not be reason, debate and a story as it was. since the literal bengali name means only reason, debate and story. this is important since the narrative style of the film itself is very different from a story telling cinema. In bengali the name "jukti takka aar gappa" is also has the allusion that the cinema of this name is going to comment on these (reason, debate and story ), but adding an A will ruin it and transform the allusion into : reason, debate and a story, and cinema is going to comment or depict this perticular story. I dont know if I am clear enough but I feel that "A" reduced the cinemas appeal. Jeroje 21:27, 22 July 2007 (UTC)jeroje

Ritwik's Film Style
'None of the elements of the commercial cinema (singing and dancing, melodrama, stars, glitz) featured in his work.' - Not True. Ritwik never discarded melodrama like other realists. His films - take Komal Gandhar for example - are a testimony to this. - Soumen, 06/11/2008.

Quotes
" You could say I strayed into films down a zigzag path. If my father had had his way I should have been an income-tax officer.I got the job but left it to join the CPI...After quitting the job i tried writing poetry, but I found myself singularly incapable of it. I shifted my interests to writing short stories and won a bit of fame...literature delves deep into the soul of man, but it works slowly...I wanted to make an immediate impact...Then a miracle happened-the IPTA...I produced Tagore's Bisarjaan...But this also showed me that I could only reach a maximum of 10,000 people through such a show...Then I decided to make films."

" I am a bad cinema-goer. I rarely see films."

" In my opinion Sergei Yuktevich and Loius Buñuel are the very greatest."

" The secret of good film-making is editing. This calls for an uncanny sense of timing. Satyajit Ray is the only director in India who has it."

"It(Film-making)is veritably a matter of emotion recollected in tranquility, that is, everything is planned out before the actual process of filming."

"There can be no creation without pride.But it has to be the creator's pride, not pride in the mundane sense...you can not make a film without pride,infinite self-confidence and the stern capacity to dream infinitude."

" There are categories of motion. Firstly, the motion of visible objects and creatures in mobility. Secondly, the motion of the camera itself. Thirdly, the suspension of motion. Fourthly, the mental motion."

"Every artist somehow manages to carry his childhood with himself,tucked in his pocket,right into adulthood.Once that eludes him,he is left an old fogey.He ceases to be an artist,and becomes a theorist."

"If there is a better medium than cinema, i'll kick the cinema out to grab it.I am not in love with cinema...I don't love film..."

"Rabindranath,Rabindranath!Great artist of such stature...Rabindranath is a vast ocean."

Attributes
" Ritwik for some mysterious reason was free from the Hollywood influence...The most charactersitic feature of Ritwik was his originality and he maintained that till the end...He was quintessentially a Bengali film-maker, Bengali artist -- more Bengali than me." -- Satyajit Ray

" Riwik happened to be the biggest Bohemian among us." -- Mrinal Sen

" At 83, I am still trying hard to protect whatever remains of his work and keep his memory alive. Despite being so unwell, he never lost focus of his work or his creative urge. He lives on in my memories." -- Surama Ghatak.

" Of all India's many comparatively unsung directors, Ritwik Ghatak(1926–76)was possibly the most obviously talented...The first occasion a group of Western critics was abe to look at the body of his works was at the Madras Festival in January 1978. The prints were tattered, the subtitles virtually unreadable...the projection...below even Indian standards.But the impact of the films on all present was considerable. Here, we all felt, was a passionate and intensely national film-maker who seemed to have found his way without much access to the works of others but who most certainly of international calibre." -- Derek Malcolm

" Five years after his death Ritwik is beginning to relive. His films are being claimed by the people again. The people are resurrecting what an entire generation of his enemies could not destroy." -- Safder Hasmi.

" I remember him on the days when he stalked down the Institute corridors, and we addressed him as the Tiger from Blake's poem that he loved to quote. In Jukti Takko ar Gappo, he seemed to remember it too—only with a change of meaning: 'I am burning everyone is burning...the universe is burning...' -- Kumar Sahani

" Almost forty-forty five years have elapsed—the value system of Bengalis was dying down fast...India,Bangladesh were sacrificed on the guillotine of European great wars.How much could men confront against the starvation,epidemic,death?But they tried.Some of the young men and women stood up;built organisations and declared 'We won't die,won't let our brothers and sisters either'.They made their declarations through songs on bus,tram,street;poets in their poetry;litterateurs in stories,fictions...Amidst them came the indefatigable artist Ritwik Ghatak—whose emergence was as bright and end as fleeting as a comet—yet the world of cinema he lit up in that short period." -- Gopal Haldar

Added Ritwik Ghatak's Name's Pronunciation Audio
I have added Ritwik Ghatak's name's auidio pronunciation. --Tito Dutta (Talk) 19:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

External Link Clean Up
There are too many links in External Link section, I suggest to clean up external link section! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 12:04, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have manually checked each and every external links, and removed 1-2 external link (one of them was not working). Still there are 11 external links. It's too many! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 18:06, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Dubious: Padma Shri and Ritwik Ghatak
I am not very sure if Government took back Padma Shri award from Ritwik Ghatak, see this article.. here too they have not clearly mentioned whether the award was taken back. In Indian Government website's Padma Shri list using advanced search, I could not find the name of Ritwik Ghatak/Ritwik Kumar Ghatak in the list. (in that website, there is not the option to collect URL of exact search result page, so, a screenshot). --Tito Dutta Message 07:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Bagalar Banga Darshan
The only notable aspect of this movie is Ghatak. JDDJS (talk) 03:38, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Verify sources
I have tagged the following entries in the "Further reading" section with verify source:


 * Ritwik and His Films: in two volumes, edited by Rajat Ray
 * Ritwik Kumar Ghatak: edited by Rajat Ray, Shristi Prakasan
 * Ritwik Ke Shesh Valobasa: Pratiti Devi, Bangladesh, Sahitya Prakas

I initially came to this article to handle the isbn missing on these entries.

Problems


 * I found zero references on the Internet to these sources;


 * I did find . It specifies Ray as translator, not editor; there's a huge difference. If Ritwik Ghatak is actually the author of the three entries above (and Ray is the translator), then the three entries should be rewritten;

Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 14:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * If the original language of the three entries is not English, we can more easily find the ISBNs with bibliographical information written in the original characters.

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Credibility
Ritwik Ghatak was a playwright and a short story writer which are available why that is being discredited by users is a question Samx don (talk) 09:23, 22 July 2020 (UTC)