Talk:River (typography)

Spacing between sentences
When using typewriters, many of us were taught to leave two spaces at the end of a sentence, presumably to help the reader see that that was where a sentence in fact ended. (Evidently a period and a following capital letter were not considered enough.) When I read some advice on typing résumés, I was told to get out of that habit, as it would create unnecessary (and, presumably, unattractive) white spaces, which I think is what this article is about. HTML won't give you an extra space unless you type in &amp;nbsp; twice (or at least once before or after a regular space), so you won't normally see rivers on Webpages. Nonetheless, I sometimes see rivers in Wikipedia editors or when going to "View Source." Is there any way some of this information and background can be incorporated into the article without violating rules against original research? 66.234.220.195 (talk) 05:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Putting a longer spaces between sentences isn't really anything to do with typewriters. It has always been done, and is not the cause of rivers.  Rivers are just an accident of where the spaces line up.  — Chameleon 09:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I will dispute those statements. See sentence spacing for more information. --Airborne84 (talk) 20:00, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Larger numbers?
I don't really understand "slice individual characters into larger numbers", so I ignored this during my edits. Can someone clarify this please?--Shantavira|feed me 11:26, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Almost informative
This article seems informative, but it leaves out one crucial bit of data that would transform it from a simple definition to useful information. Are rivers something typesetters try to avoid or something they are happy to see? This perspective would be useful in the article. Skreyola (talk) 16:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point. I added some text that addresses this issue from sentence spacing. The article is still quite sparse, but this should help. --Airborne84 (talk) 20:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hard-to-understand sentence
I think that the sentence "More sophisticated typesetting applications divide individual characters into larger numbers, giving more numerical control." in the second paragraph is hard to understand (I do not understand what is meant by it). If anyone knows what it means, please edit the page to make it more clear. Hjb981 (talk) 10:10, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Hitchcockism
1. The Hitchcockism example should be changed to a picture, as the word wraps strangely on my screen (probably it depends on fonts installed on my computer, or different settings).

2. "Avoid such rivers by putting more words (...)"

- is Wikipedia a place to give advices? Maybe it should be changed to "Rivers can be avoided by..."

- is a typographic issue a valid justification for altering the content? If it is, extra explanation is needed, perhaps a reference to professional typesetter practices? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.0.84.104 (talk) 16:05, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Bill Cosby Picture Page WikiBotBlockchain (talk) 08:11, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Note number nine is no longer active.
You are unable to get to the PDF from the link provided.Scarecrow1000 (talk) 02:40, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Algorithms to automatically detect rivers, lakes, etc in text?
Are there any general theoretical papers out there about algorithms in the computer-vision/neural-network field to automatically detect rivers and compensate for them? I'd imagine it could be a fascinating area of research for some grad student paper.. Jimw338 (talk) 14:54, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Check out https://wilmotli.com/~wilmotl1/pubs/hurst09adf.pdf and http://www.pragma-ade.com/pdftex/thesis.pdf

dead ref
Jury, David (2009). "What is Typography?" (PDF). Rotovision. pp. 28–87. Retrieved 31 March 2010. redirects to generic page. (2019-06-12) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.7.132.216 (talk) 09:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)