Talk:River Dee, Wales/Archive 1

Canoeing
This reads as a rather one sided view. It would be useful to also hear the justiciation for constraining canoeing. It would also be good to have a piece about canoeing and white-rafting on the Afon Tryweryn which is, after all, a major tributary of the Dee

Velela 20:14, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)


 * I don't know what the justification for restricting numbers was, this is all the WCA have to say:


 * http://www.welsh-canoeing.org.uk/WCA_hot_files/notices.htm#Dee%20update
 * http://www.riversaccess.org/newsandevents.htm

Welsh name: afon dyfrdwy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.20.136.245 (talk) 15:17, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The argument for banning canoeing is usually that the anglers own fishing and canoeing rights and pay more than canoeists could ever afford to fish, and they don't want canoeists crossing their lines/scaring fish away/disturbing spawning beds. I don't know what the anglers argument with respect to the Dee is, I don't think anyone outside the WCA does. I don't know why canoeing was ever allowed on the Dee either. The Corwen Anglers website (www.cadac.org.uk) doesn't mention canoeing, the Dee Anglers Association don't seem to have a website. Maybe some fisherman can fill us in.


 * Canoeing and Access in England and Wales could have its own article. User:Tebbb (talk) 01:10, 17-12-04

Industrial Uses
Is it worth adding some information on major industrial users. I know there are some major power stations on the Dee such as Connah's Quay and Deeside which abstract water for cooling purposes. 57.67.17.100 (talk)

River Dee, Wales?
Surely this is named wrong, maybe 'River Dee, England' would be correct? 167.1.176.4 (talk) 08:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Like many natural features the river inconveniently does not follow artificial national boundaries. It really doesn't belong to either. If that is an issue then surely River Dee, England and Wales or some variation thereof would be better? Francis Davey (talk) 07:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

For my money, "River Dee (United Kingdom)" is worse, as there are four other UK rivers mentioned on the River Dee page. Would anyone object to "River Dee (Wales & Cheshire)"? Aoeuidhtns (talk) 17:36 19 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.113.161.250 (talk)


 * I'd prefer "River Dee (England and Wales)" because the estuary runs past (and to some extent through) Wirral, which is in Merseyside (the Hilbre Islands are in Wirral not in Cheshire and stand in the estuary). But your suggestion is better than "(United Kingdom)". 82.68.102.190 (talk) 19:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

"UK" provides poor disambiguation - it fails to distinguish from River Dee, Aberdeenshire, River Dee (Lune) and River Dee, Galloway, all of which are in the UK! How about River Dee, Snowdonia (source), River Dee, Chester (mouth) or River Dee/Afon Dyfrdwy (name on OS maps)? Finavon (talk) 17:05, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

The original title River Dee Wales I though was as good as it gets. The lengths of the Dee that are wholly in England are very short as even around Chester, the west bank remains resolutely Welsh and does a significant part of the east bank on the Wirral. Only as it meanders through the Cheshire plain wandering along the Welsh boundary and then out out for a short stretch between Aldford and Chester it is wholly in England. That looks like less than 10% of the length of the river.  Velella  Velella Talk 17:30, 16 January 2011 (UTC)