Talk:Roanoke Colony/Archive 3

First sentence
Shouldn't the first sentence end with something like "... to establish a permanent English settlement in North America"? Otherwise an "English settlement" could be just about anywhere... --Aeonblue158 (talk) 22:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Confusing reference to geographical location
This phrase: "  at the site of the ancient Croatoan capital, 50 miles (80 km) from the old Roanoke colony", should have an indication of the actual location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.221.18.82 (talk) 14:24, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2016
Mommy bubbles (talk) 17:35, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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Colony Name?
Roanoke is a native American word for white beads make from shell (origin- From Powhatan rawrenock "things rubbed smooth by hand")so using that word would be after the colony was already in place I would think. Did Elizabeth/Raleigh have a English name for the new colony or was it just formed and sent without one? It wouldn't be under the Virginia Company would it as that wasn't formed until James I was in power in 1603 (Jamestown 1607)? I do know the Virginia charter was vast ("sea to sea") and covered most of Carolina and overlapped the Plymouth charter founded later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.126.193.15 (talk) 16:29, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Dead reference
Reference #27 seems to no longer link to a paper or an article - It seems rather important, too. Does anyone know of other sources?--92.243.251.196 (talk) 01:15, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * updated with http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/9244947/Ancient-map-gives-clue-to-fate-of-Lost-Colony.html Meters (talk) 01:28, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Tobacco and potato in Europe
The sentence "the Roanoke colonists introduced tobacco, maize, and potatoes to Europe" is planinly wrong, as those were introduced in Spain almost 80 years before.
 * The source says those items were introduced to England, so I've edited the sentence accordingly. Thanks for finding that. — howcheng  {chat} 18:03, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

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Why is there no reference to the obvious?
And vastly more probable. That, like many early colonies, they were massacred by natives? There's zero reference to mass murder or killing by natives within the article besides one single reference to the first colonist murdered whilst fishing for crabs. Why would the most obvious conclusion not be listed, even in passing? Further, why is this semi-protected when the user requesting semi-protection was clearly told that their request was invalid? This needs unprotection, as it doesn't require it. I am suspicious that removal of massacre by natives seems to coincide with the request for protection. 121.210.33.50 (talk) 11:07, 18 February 2018 (UTC)


 * There was never any evidence of a massacre..no bodies no evidence of a confrontation..the buildings had all been taken down in an orderly manner..there was no evidence whatsoever of the colony doing anything but what they had always intended which was to migrate 50 miles into the mainland 2600:1702:2340:9470:D997:924F:DB78:405 (talk) 00:27, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Removed un-sourced section, RE: Pop Culture
Feel free to find a source and add each back in:

In popular culture

 * Books===
 * The White Doe: The Fate of Virginia Dare (1901) is one of the many novels about the most settlers of the Roanoke Colony, Virginia Dare, that details the theory of assimilation. In this story, Dare is married off into the Croatan tribe.
 * The Daughter of Virginia Dare (1908) is another novel about Virginia Dare, in which the author claims Dare to be the mother of Pocahontas.
 * Rising Shore Roanoke (2007) by Deborah Homsher
 * The Missing Book 3: Sabotaged (2010) by Margaret Peterson Haddix
 * Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter by Seth Grahame-Smith, released in 2010, features a character called Henry, a vampire who was a part of the Roanoke Colony. Through this character, the novel presents a situation in which "Cro" referred to the Colony's Doctor Crowley. In this fictional version of events, the Colony was wiped out by Dr. Crowley, a vampire who then turned Henry into a vampire to be his companion.
 * The Last American Vampire is the 2015 sequel to Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter. This time, the story follows the character, Henry. He reveals that he lied about the death of Virginia Dare and that in truth, he kept her alive and raised her as his own. In this version of events, Dare is still alive and lives on as a vampire.


 * Comics===


 * Marvel 1602, a 2003 comic book series, provides an alternate timeline in which the Roanoke Colony thrived and places many Marvel characters, such as Steve Rogers in this situation.


 * Film===
 * The dramatic feature, The Legend of Two Path (1998), recounts the arrival of the English settlers from the viewpoint of the Native Americans of Roanoke Island in 1584.
 * 2004 crime thriller Mindhunters is about someone who goes missing from a group of FBI trainees, only to be found in the Lost Colony after leaving the word 'Croatoan' behind as a clue.
 * Wraiths of Roanoke, otherwise known as The Lost Colony is a 2007 Sci Fi original movie the features the perspective of Ananias Dare, the father of Virginia and the one John White leaves in charge of the Colony while he is gone. In this fictional story, Vikings are responsible for the Colony's disappearance, and the victims become ghosts that haunt the island. Ananias Dare defeats the ghosts and sends Virginia away from the island, who is then raised by Manteo, the Croatan.


 * TV===
 * Stephen King's 1999 miniseries, Storm of the Century is loosely based on the story of the Roanoke Colony and offers a theory as to what happened.
 * In cancelled TV series, FreakyLinks (2000), character Embry's brother dies whilst investigating the disappearance of the Roanoke Colony. Virginia Dare is alive as a demonic being in this story who is revealed to have been responsible for killing off the Roanoke Colony.
 * In 2005 TV series Haven, a character dreams of the Roanoke Colony. The word 'Croatoan' comes to symbolize a monster.
 * The first season of Sleepy Hollow (2013) connects The Legend of Sleepy Hollow to the story of the Roanoke Colony. In this adaptation, the Horseman of Pestilence supposedly visited Roanoke Island and infected its inhabitants with plague. Virginia Dare became a ghost and led her fellow settlers to Upstate New York where they continue to haunt to this day.
 * American Horror Story: Roanoke, which came out in 2016, is the sixth season of American Horror Story, features the colonists from real life as spirits that haunt North Carolina due to a deal that John White's wife made with a witch. As a result, they must perform blood rituals and murder people during the month of October.


 * Internet===
 * "The Mysterious Disappearance of the Roanoke Colony", released on November 17, 2017, is an episode of BuzzFeed Unsolved: Supernatural in which the various theories that surround the disappearance are discussed.