Talk:Rob Guest

Date of death
I guess it'll be clarified in the coming days, but it's not totally clear at this stage exactly when he died - before midnight on Wednesday 1 October, or after midnight on Thursday 2 October. The Herald Sun cite said it happened "last night" and was posted at "October 02, 2008 01:56am". That suggests to me that it was before midnight, 1 October, because it would have taken a couple of hours for the family to agree on the wording of a statement by the hospital, the statement to be delivered, and journos to get the news. As more info comes to hand we may have to revise the date. -- JackofOz (talk) 23:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

It was further clarified by news services today (see the Herald Sun and The Australian) that Guest died shortly after midnight on October 2. The article has been changed to reflect this fact. - Trink —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.239.3 (talk) 05:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, but we need to put those cites in the article. All we have at this stage is the original Herald Sun cite that gives the ambiguous "last night" (= 1 October).  It's not OK to simply change important facts on the basis of what one has read, without sharing the source of that information.  --  JackofOz (talk) 06:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

British-born New Zealand actor?
Why is he described as a New Zealand actor? as far as I can see this British born person spent his professional career split between Australia, USA and NZ. Seems a stupid thing to say to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.199.209.12 (talk) 02:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree - it doesn't make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.196.205 (talk) 04:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * His OBE was awarded on a recommendation of the NZ government, for services to entertainment in NZ. I suspect he moved there at quite a young age.  We're quite happy to call Russell Crowe an Australian - he was born in NZ, spent a number of his early years in Australia, and now spend most of his time in the USA.  --  JackofOz (talk) 07:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


 * He was born in the UK but was raised and began his musical career in New Zealand. He didn't begin his overseas career until he was around 30.  Most importantly, it is my understanding from the TV interviews I've seen this evening, he considered himself a New Zealander. I believe most of his family still lives in NZ (he was kept on life support until they were able to fly in from NZ). BigBadaboom0 (talk) 11:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Citation for lack of references - appropriate to remove this
Looks like there are a good and healthy references list at present. Is it appropriate for this citation to be removed. It is a citation that the article contains no references after all. Norlag74 (talk) 10:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

World-record 2,289 performances as Phantom?
The Wicked site says: "... he was cast as The Phantom in Phantom of the Opera, going on to play the role to great acclaim for a record 2,289 performances over 7 years". It doesn't actually say whether that was a world record for the Phantom title role, or just for the Phantom productions in Australia. Currently, we're claiming this is a world record, which it may not be. -- JackofOz (talk) 23:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the ABC have gone with the "world record-breaking" tag . WWGB (talk) 00:33, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't necessarily trust one isolated news report, but this search suggests it's a well-founded claim. I'm sure they didn't all get their information from Wikipedia.  --  JackofOz (talk) 00:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Just what are these awards?
A list of awards at the end of the article came unsourced (although the OBE had been sourced in a previous section).

A quick look through the history of this article showed that the list had been introduced for the very first version of the article, and had not been touched thereafter. Further, that this very first version came with two sources, one of which had since died but the other of which still existed, giving this exact list. The last mention of the latter source had subsequently been removed from the article (in this edit).

I take a very dim view of the unthinking reproduction of what obviously are lazily compiled (undated, etc) lists, and am inclined to delete anything within this bunch that can't be specified more clearly and sourced more authoritatively. Still, somebody might call that "vandalism", so I've reluctantly left this stuff in for the time being.

Now, what does it all mean? A good place to start might be the "Shure Gold Microphone Award": at least we know that there's a microphone company called Shure. I see no other mention of the award in en:WP, though there are mentions of a Shure Golden Microphone Award. There's no mention of either at Shure, or on the top page of the company's website. A bit of googling takes me to the company's gruesomely phrased press release "Music Producers Guild Go for Gold with Shure’s Mics at Inaugural Awards", which suggests that now (if not necessarily at the unspecified time when Guest won something), the company hands out gold mikes for awards that have other names. Ideas? -- Hoary (talk) 01:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Rob Guest Endowment
Should the RGE have a separate page (as does Sir Robert Helpmann and the Helpmann Awards?) To my mind, thats a clearer, more logical way of doing things. I hate thinking of names (talk) 04:28, 16 November 2016 (UTC)