Talk:Rob Hornstra

Miscellaneous notes
--Hoary (talk) 14:15, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Photo of Hornstra: the "upright" parameter is used to match the graphic below and also because his face is small here and I don't want to crop.
 * Photo by Hornstra: the "upright" parameter is used to increase the width and thereby avoid an immensely long column for the long text of the caption.
 * Caption to photo by Hornstra: Text is taken from the Commons page to which the photograph was uploaded. Trivial changes have been made to the punctuation.
 * Andrew Phelps, "Rob Hornstra: Sanatorium": spelling mistake silently corrected.
 * Another source? "Three ways to make a Book", in Martin Parr, ed., Witness #3: Martin Parr. New York: Joy of Giving Something, 2007. ISBN 9781590052143. How Hornstra, Mark Neville and Bart Sorgedrager were able to publish and distribute their own books. Or so I believe.
 * "La Collection de la MEP - Acquisitions et donations récentes", Maison européenne de la photographie (Paris), 2009. Spelling silently corrected.
 * List of Hornstra's exhibitions. Photography-now.com. Why bother with this link? Because the list of exhibitions within this WP article will become out of date, and people will then be able to get an update from photography-now.com

Apparent copyvio
In this edit, Lopifalko deletes such material as:


 * when not photographing for a particular purpose, he does not carry a camera
 * Itself inspired by Fotohof in Salzburg, Fotodok hopes eventually to create an exhibition space for documentary photography in Utrecht
 * These skip forewords by other writers, biographical notes, ISBNs and the other trappings of conventionally published books

as having been swiped from borotov.photoshelter.com/about/.

This seems odd to me, as these chunklets (for what they're worth) smell to me like my own prose.

All three are present in the very first version of the article (13 January 2011).

I'd like to provide a link to a later version of borotov.photoshelter.com/about/ in order to demonstrate that it was some time before this, er, appropriated the Wikipedia text. But unfortunately the only scrape web.archive.org provides for this page is this, from 16 October 2013.

I can however point anyone interested to a scrape of the top page of borotov.photoshelter.com from 12 August 2011. This of course postdates the start of the WP article by over half a year. And it has no link to or mention of any "About" page. I suggest that this is pretty good evidence for my claim that what I "contributed" to the article (the majority of the article) is in my writing.

Which of course doesn't mean that the article can't be improved. (Indeed, given time, I could improve it myself.)

Well, Rob Hornstra (or an intern) has been rather a naughty fellow, nicking Wikipedia's prose (if you believe my story) but sticking his own copyright claim on it. Should I sent him a "tsk tsk" email? (Personally, I've no particular urge to do so.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:45, 9 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Now there's a string to your bow! -Lopifalko (talk)

Presentation of books
The books are presented in a way that's unusual for Wikipedia. This too was my doing. (Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it!)

I didn't do this just to be different. Again and again, I saw claims -- both by RH and AvB themselves and by others writing about RH and the Sochi Project -- that the books were of particular significance. The books aren't affordable reminders of or alternatives to pictures on walls; instead, they are the major goals. I thought (perhaps wrongly) that my way of presenting the books might be helpful.

Which is not to say that it can't be improved, or even that I was right. Be bold! (But don't be a dick.) -- Hoary (talk) 07:45, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

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