Talk:Rob Van Dam/Archive 1

some of RVD's moves!
Rolling Thunder, Wheel kick, Five star frog splash, Monkey flip

What about his Wife?
Rob is married to a woman named Sonya but nobody metions her.
 * Why?

maybe she doesnt want him too? maybe, but I think it is damn personal if he did so.
 * On ECW One Night Stand 2, he ran up to his wife on the balcony after he won the title. She had black hair and even Joey Styles mentioned that it was his wife. I don't know they removed that on the DVD or not. Just thought that I'd mention this. SilentRage 04:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Rob Van Dam has been married to Sonya since 1998 but they have no children because as Rob has said in the past that he does not want any. By the way you can still see sonya on the DVD of one night stand and did you notice the fans chanting "Butt fuck Van Dam butt fuck" at the show?


 * Methinks you misheard. "Fuck him up *wrestler* fuck him up" is a common ECW chant. Koberulz 11:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Relations
"Van Dam has appeared as an extra in several of his half-brother Jean Claude's movies." Jean Claude Van Damme isn't related to Rob. SilentRage 01:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

RVD has an older brother and an older sister and NO HE IS NOT RELATED TO JEAN CLAUDE VAN DAMME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HIS LAST NAME IS SZATKOWSKI.
 * How does that disqualify them from being half-brothers? Koberulz 11:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

because rob van dam was in the united states and jean claude van damme was born in belgim. so how could they be half brothers?

Championships
It's lame to list the "Money in the Bank" as a championship. It's not a championship; it's a privilege. You can make a slight case because it's defended on occassion but it shouldn't be listed under titles. BTC316 00:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * If I'm not mistaken, the Wikipedia Pro Wrestling project made it that way, and they are the ones who have real jurasdiction over how the wrestling articles are formattted. SilentRage 00:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Ethnicity
I know jean claude van damme is Belgian, but what is RVD?

He's most likely to be Polish.

WWE Title Reign section
I removed this for now, as all the information contained within was speculation. Once Raw airs tonight, then the section can be re-added with confirmed information. 71.245.144.10 00:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

-Well, I'd say it's fairly official now, regardless of how long this lasts (I give it two weeks, then we're back to the, and I quote the loyal ECW fans, "same old s*** with Cena), RVD is the WWE Champion

Undisputed Champion?
Would RVD now be known as an Undisputed Champion now that he holds two World Titles? GunFactor007 20:30, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You obviously don't understand the point of being "undisputed" champion. Being undisputed doesn't mean holding more than one title, it means that you are the ONLY champion of the calibur in whatever sport it is that you are champion in. In this case it's WWE wrestling, and Heavyweight titles. If he had the SmackDown!'s World Heavyweight title, then hew would be the Undisputed Champ, as there would be no other world champions in WWE. Hope that helps SilentRage 01:00, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, oops. Sheesh man, ya don't have to get all worked up, I was just wondering about this issue that's all.  And I kinda forgot about SmackDown! too. GunFactor007 21:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm not even sure he's has two championships, I think he may only have two belts looking at the OFFICIAL ECW World Heavyweight Championship history . So you should get rid of all the references to holding two world titles etc.

--Trick man01 08:55, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * It's most likely that RVD is currently classified as both ECW and WWE Champion. This will most likely be shown to light following Vengeance and it's outcome. Blacklist 07:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * WWE just hasn't updated the title history yet. They do consider him the ECW Champion, they even mention it in the preview for tonight's episode of "ECW on Sci Fi": In tag team action, ECW World Heavyweight Champion Rob Van Dam and Kurt Angle will face WWE's Randy Orton and Edge tonight at 10/9 CT on the Sci Fi Channel. TJ Spyke 23:01, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Incase you didn't notice today they only renamed the WWE Championship the ECW championship. The Ring announcer never mentioned thh WWE title period.--12.179.230.219 03:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
 * WWE refers to him as WWE Champion and ECW Champion. This was in their preview for tonight's episode of ECW on Sci Fi: "Tonight on Sci Fi, the world will get to see an inter-promotional tag team dream match that could only happen in ECW. WWE and ECW World Heavyweight Champion Rob Van Dam will team up with the Wrestling Machine Kurt Angle to take on the WWE’s Randy Orton and the Rated-R Superstar Edge. TJ Spyke 05:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

RVD and Sabu arrested for Drugs
The following is an article from The Ironton Tribune (irontontribune.com)

Wrestling stars busted in Hanging Rock By Kirsten Stanley/The Ironton Tribune

HANGING ROCK  Two wrestling superstars from Extreme Championship Wrestling and World Wrestling Entertainment may be tough in the ring, but they didn't have enough muscle to escape drug charges after being stopped Sunday night by the Ohio State Highway Patrol.

Robert Alex Szatowski, aka WWE and ECW champion Rob Van Dam, and Terry Michael Brunk, aka Sabu, also a former ECW champion, were pulled over on U.S. 52, near Patrick Street in Hanging Rock at about 10:15 p.m. The two were apparently driving from their performances at the Big Sandy Superstore Arena earlier in the evening.

According to the OSHP, Szatowski was initially stopped for speeding. When troopers approached his vehicle, they smelled marijuana and performed a search. Troopers found the wrestler in possession of 18 grams of marijuana and five Vicodin, prescription pain pills. Brunk was charged with possession of drug paraphernalia and also had nine pills that were not immediately identifiable, but were known to be controlled substances, according to the OSHP. Both were cited and posted bond at the scene.

Szatowski, of Battle Creek, Mich., has had a long, successful career with both the WWE and ECW. In addition to being the current champion of both, he has been intercontinental champion six times, hardcore champion four times and has been a part of several championship tag team duos.

He is scheduled to wrestle tonight on WWE Raw and is also wrestling Tuesday night to retain his WWE and ECW titles during the "Extreme Rules Match" on the Sci-Fi channel.

Both Brunk and Szatowski are scheduled to appear at 10 a.m. Thursday in Ironton Municipal Court. Both wrestlers won their matches last night in Huntington, W.Va. Van Dam defeated the Big Show and Sabu defeated Justin Credible.

When troopers approached his vehicle, they smelled marijuana and performed a search. Troopers found the wrestler in possession of 18 grams of marijuana and five Vicodin, prescription pain pills. Brunk was charged with possession of drug paraphernalia and also had nine pills that were not immediately identifiable.

Should this be posted are will we have to wait for comfirmation?
 * I think the source cited is probably reliable enough for the time being. McPhail 18:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I linked the article.--Bedford 18:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Associated Press has since picked up the story, it is quite real. -EvWill 00:19, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

''It is now known that Rob Van Dam has been fired from WWE, due to drug related issues. The WWE Title will have a new champion after this night.''

Source?

I don't think there is one. The best source I could find is a link for WWE.com stating that the WWE was investigating and that they were allowed to wrestle tonight ands Tomorrow and stated. There was no statement that they were fired. I believe that the they will wait until the investigation is finished before they decide if either of them will be fired..70.48.108.223 03:11, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

He'll probably lose the ECW title tomorrow to Big Slow. Then they will suspend him. They don't want to suspend/fire him while he has any belts.--Bedford 03:14, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Removed a bit at the end of this section saying he'd been fired and gone to TNA... it ain't happened yet... Don't be surprised if it does though. --212.159.78.3 21:52, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Van Dam? FIRED?!? What the f***?!?--70.23.20.245 03:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * He will likely only be fined/suspended. Sabu on the other hand has a good chance of being fired. I bet they both regret using drugs now, especially RVD since he will never be WWE Champion again. TJ Spyke 03:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Shawn Michaels won several of his Titles after a steroid controversy.

Include drug arrest in WWE/ECW (3.3) subheading?
It's very clearly pertinent to the information that's already there. I don't want to hear some stupid "But how will anyone tell if it's part of kayfabe?!" argument, provided you have a brain you can make that distinction. As it is, the information is presented (jobbing of both the titles) and THEN explained, a good ways down the page. Tromboneguy0186 03:30, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

"Suspension After Van Dam lost the ECW Heavyweight Championship to the Big Show, it was announced that he had been suspended for 30 days on WWE.com. WWE suspending Rob Van Dam for 30 days. WWE.com. Retrieved on July 4, 2006. . "

This I do see as problematic. Unless it's explicitly mentioned that everything outside of the "Personal Information" section is 100% kayfabe, this explanation of the suspension should not be in the article. Tromboneguy0186 04:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

That damn World Title
I started a discussion on the ECW brand world title and where to put it is at the Pro Wrestling WikiProject talk page. Until a consensus has been reached please nobody move it again. --Bdve 16:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Closure of 5*Comics
Apparently, the store has closed so wouldn't that be a thing to add?

It says nothing of a Closing on The 5 Star Comics Web site --Mikedk9109 02:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Van Daminator and Van Terminator
Should those two moves really be bold as if they are finisher? I don't think I have seen Van Dam end a match with those moves. So just like the Rolling Thunder shouldnt be bolded even though he uses it in most every match either should these two moves.


 * He's definately finished matches with the Van Daminator and Van Terminator in ECW, and even if not it falls under the same label as Roderick Strong's Half nelson backbreaker. --- Lid 23:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Alright, just wondering about that.--Mikedk9109 23:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

So...
Van Dam spoiled the match of Sabu/Angle, so does that make him heel or still a face who fans are too happy to see?
 * RVD is really not a face, heel or tweener: even when he was at his most heelish in ECW he was still massively over with almost any fan. So...I've got no idea.

As long as Vince McMahon keeps ECW RVD will always be face because ECW was brought back for RVD.

RVD's title history
RVD's ECW World title should be listed under ECW (with a disclaimer for WWE).

RVD is now officially the seventh Grand Slam Champion, as WWE now recognises JBL's U.S. Title as part of the Grand Slam, and JBL got there first.

Leave in the note of RVD being the first with both an ECW Triple Crown and WWE Grand Slam.

Your right RVD'S World title should be listed under ECW not WWE

JBL, sixth...RVD, seventh
What is it with you people not giving JBL his due?

The Split-legged moonsault: Finisher or not?
For the last few days, I have been battling with an unregistered user over whether the Split-legged moonsault belongs in the finisher section of the move list, or the signature moves section, in which he feels it must be labeled that it used to be a finisher before he went to ECW in 1996. He said as Robbie V, he used the SLM as a finisher. If I am not mistaken, that was between 1994 and 1996, which means over a decade ago he used it as a finisher... I've watched RVD in WWE since he redebuted for them in 2001, and I don't recall ever seeing him end a match with the SLM. I think it should remain in the signature moves section permanently, and I don't think it needs to be labeled that it used to be a finisher over a decade ago. What do you think?
 * I am that user you have been battling with. Wikipedia is not supposed to bea resource for only current finishers.  It is a notable finisher, as he has finished many matches with it, and in his early career, it was his only finisher.  I feel, as a few others apparently do as I am not the only one editing it in, that it should at the very least be labeled as a former finisher.70.130.135.53 22:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, how about we leave it in the signature moves at the very top, and label it as his original finisher and currently used as a signature move? Is that a good medium? JJ Prowler 09:11pm, August 31, 2006
 * That was what I was doing, so that's fine by me.70.130.135.53 02:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
 * if it was used as a finisher at one point it should comply with the standards laid out for move list and be bolded... there is not disscussion there is only the fact it was a finisher ---Paulley

It isnt a finisher anymore, it is just a signature manuver. He has not finished a match with it in ages, therefore, it should remain in the signature moves list. And for you Paulley, it WAS a finisher, keyword WAS, not IS.
 * No it isn't a finisher anymore. But wikipedia is an Encyclopedia. It records all information. If RVD had used a chokeslam 15 years ago as a finisher, then it should and would be listed here. The Split-legged moonsault was his finisher throughout his entire WCW career, and has been sporadically used to finish matches ever since. Therefore, it should be labeled as a finisherSevenzeroone 02:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Query about move list.
In the last topic, you all said it yourself, this is an Encyclopedia, which records all information, so why is someone repeatedly removing the side kick, which RVD has done in the past, and most recently to Bob Holly in the most recent edition of ECW. Your actions after all you have said is pure hypocrisy, if you ask me. JJ Prowler 1:52 pm, September 5, 2006 (UTC-5)
 * The side kick is a generic move, doesn't need a mention. You keep changing Rolling Thunder to the wrong formatting, adding comments without value; "in original ECW" is just childish. Not to mention that you remove the name "Hollywood Star Press". Your change note "I WILL NEVER GIVE UP! EITHER ACCEPT IT OR CONTINUE TO TRY TO CHANGE IT, YOU CHANGE IT, I CHANGE IT BACK, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!!" says it all really. Please stop.
 * ↪Lakes (Talk) 19:15, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
 * And oh, the point that several people have reverted your changes and you're the only one supporting your view should tell you something.
 * ↪Lakes (Talk) 19:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

RVD COMIC BOOK STORE
I went to RVD comic book store website and it said they are closed forever

Hey, why was my change to the page reverted?
I put the diving leg drop in as RVDs finisher, and it was reversed back to the old 1! He finished his tag match with Sabu with the diving leg drop, and several tag matches in the past w/ Sabu in ECW with that very leg drop. It should be included into the finishers!!TJ Sparks 03:35, Sept. 21, 2006 (UTC)
 * He doesn't use the diving leg drop as a finisher, he and Sabu as a tag team used Stereo Diving leg drops as a finisher, and that tag move has been noted in the page for the team of RVD and SabuSevenzeroone 20:36, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Heres the thing: RVD has done a running leg lariat at the turnbuckle 2x so far, and it should be added. I labelled the superkick as a side kick because Tazz refers to it as a side kick, and if you didnt notice, in the superkick page, the superkick is also called a side kick. Im gonna put it back to the way i put it b4, and 1 more question, why is the split legged moonsault set as a hollywood star press 1st, then split legged moonsault after? Arent you supposed to label the current name in front of past names? Thats the way it is in Shelton Benjamin's page, so i think thats the way it should be labelled in the list. Also, i think it should just be called "Finishing and signature moves" instead of 2 seperate things, because some moves are used as BOTH finishing and signature, and people shouldnt be confused over if the split legged moonsault is a current finisher, signature move, or BOTH. Just my opinion on the situation. TJ Sparks 04:51, Sept. 21, 2006 (UTC)

Last 2 edits to RVD's movelist
The last 2 edits were billed as being from "152.163.100.131", but they were made by me. I forgot to login when I did them, and what's strange, Thats not even my IP Address... lol. Just clearing the air of the situation...TJ Sparks 12:34, Sept. 22, 2006 (UTC)

Hollywood Star Press/Split Legged Moonsault
I saw in Shelton Benjamin's wiki page, his Dragon Whip move was listed as this: Dragon Whip / Shell Shock / Money Clip (Dragon whip) (The word in the parenthesis was linked, the rest werent), So here in RVD's page, since it seems that the order goes from current name to oldest (oldest being Money Clip when he had that "all about the Benjamins" gimmick when he debuted on Heat), i'm going to label the split legged moonsault in that fashion. TJ Sparks 12:43, Sept. 28, 2006 (UTC)

Chair Surf and Skate board
Aren't Chair Surf and Skateboard the exact same move ,Running Dropkick with a steel chair into an opp seated in a turnbuckle. So why are they listed as two separate moves --Wally787 09:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

About the split legged moonsault
Should we still refer to it as "Hollywood Star Press"? I mean, the last few years I've seen RVD in action, I haven't heard the commentators of his match refer to his split legged moonsault, so should we still refer to it as such? Or just call it what it is: Split legged moonsault?TJ Sparks 09:23am, Nov. 22, 2006 (UTC)
 * If it was once called that then it has to stay. Even though it isn't referred to that anymore it still has to stay. -- Mikedk9109  (talk)  19:10, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Why I named a move "Rolling Thunder Monkey Flip"
I named it so because on the Rolling Thunder page, it says: "A rolling thunder refers to the action of a forward roll towards an opponent using the complete rotation to spring up onto their feet and into the air and perform an attack." and "Though Van Dam doesn't call his move anything more than "Rolling Thunder" most other variations use a naming system of Rolling Thunder [attack name]." On the list, it was set up as "Forward roll into corner monkey flip", so I thought that the forward roll in the rolling thunder, and since Konnan's move is a Rolling Thunder Lariat, and a leg drop version of the rolling thunder exists, so why not call this move a Rolling Thunder Monkey Flip. You can revert it if you want back to what it once was, but I just thought it would be the appropriate classification for the move. There can also be a consensus for this as well if you wish. --TJ Sparks 09:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Isn't that a senton? 220.233.11.111 04:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Over one month later... later... Its a forward roll into a jumping monkey flip on a cornered opponent. The definition of the Rolling Thunder states it is a forward roll into a springing attack, and in this case, the springing attack is the monkey flip. So it suits the name of the move. -- Jลмєs Mลxx ™ ' Msg me ' Contribs  04:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

The technical name for what is called the Rolling Thunder on television is the Rolling Thunder Senton. They just shorten it since he uses the senton more than any of the other moves. When he does the splash, they call it the Rolling Thunder Splash, ect. Rolling Thunder just means a forward roll into another move, so this works. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  05:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

I've asked this question before, and i'm asking again
In a move list, when you put a move like "Hard DDT/Mega DDT/Jokers DDT" and such, shouldn't the current name of the move be bolded and be in front? --TJ Sparks 01:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

About the move names
Ive seen wrestler pages on wikipedia where the wrestler has a move he doesn't use anymore. For instance: Edge. Edge doesn't use "Downward Spiral" (Modified reverse STO) anymore in any way, shape, or form. I understand this is an encyclopedia, and it must be mentioned. Understandable. However, on the RVD page, the Split-legged moonsault/Hollywood star press RVD has on the list he does NOT use as a finisher anymore. Not since his days in WCW has he used it as a finisher. Due to this fact, should split legged moonsault STILL be bolded? Isn't it one of his signature moves now? Shouldn't it be italicized rathar than bolded? --James Maxx 04:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * WP:PW guidelines say that a move never looses its highest status. If it was used as a finisher for a length of time, it will always be bolded as a finisher. Like you said, Edge used the downward spiral for a time as a signature move, and since this is an encyclopedia and it must be mentioned. The same goes for finishers; he used it as his finishing move for a length of time, and that must be mentioned. Cheers, --  T H  L  R CCD 04:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Reason for my edit to the move list
I modeled the way I wrote up the split legged moonsault the same way Dragon Whip is written up in Shelton Benjamin's page, where Dragon Whip is bolded, and the previous names are italicized and non bolded. I also separated the finishers from the signature moves. James Maxx 18:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Other than separating the groups, it sounds like Shelton's page has some formatting errors. The Dragon whip shouldn't be formatted that way. --  T H  L  R  22:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

About two moves...
Are the moves "Springboard moonsault" and "Legsweep" worth mentioning in the move list? --James Maxx 02:22, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Not a Euro Champion
I Dont know how nobody has realized this but if you see the title history on WWE.com RVD is not recognized as a euro champion. I know he won the unfication match but according to WWE.com he is not recognized as champion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.184.169.37 (talk) 05:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

He is listed as a Euro Champion in his profile. --  T H  L  06:22, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I know, but they completely contradict themselves when they dont label him as champion in the title history.

This is an unusual circumstance, and I think that we need input from some other people in order to make the decision as to whether or not we list him as a champion. Anyone else have any thoughts? --  T H  L  07:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I think that he SHOULD be listed as a European Champion, because of the fact that he won the title through a unification, so that basically means he held the European Championship for ONE SECOND. Bear in mind WWE is a revisionist company which can alter history to the way they see fit. Such as saying that Edge never lost a TLC match, but yet he lost a TLC match on SmackDown! to Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho. Also not mentioning that Randy Orton has a winning streak on Survivor Series. So in conclusion, I think that we should list him as champion, and on the European Championship page, he should be listed as the champion with the shortest reign of one second. --James Maxx 08:15, 17 December 2006 (UTC) yes RVD can count as the shortest reigning eroupen champon but he's also held it on 2 occations the other being that he beat williem regel. as for edge being undefeted in TLC matchs most likly refers to PPVs stauts.

ECW Title
Why is RVD's ECW World Championship not in the ECW section of title reigns? I see that problem with a lot of wrestlers like The Rock and Kurt Angle. They were WCW Champions but it is under WWE could someone fix it.--AD Double J 17:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The ECW section is for the original ECW promotion, not the WWE ECW brand. That is why it isn't added, and why he isn't recognized as an ECW Triple Crown Champion. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  03:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, when The Rock won the WCW title, WCW was apart of WWE. I don't know about Kurt Angle though. I think Angle won the WCW title when he was signed with WWE, but he went to WCW for some reason I forget. -- Mikedk9109  (hit me up)  21:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Despite what Hybrid is saying, the Van Dam IS a ECW Triple Crown Champion since the ECW Title still counts torwards is. I have provided proof on the Triple Crown page, while Hybrid has not. I hope somebody adds it in to this page since it's hurting WP by hiding the fact that he IS a a ECW Triple Crown Champion. Lrrr IV 02:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

RVD To Go To TNA
Van Dam Has Said In Interviews That He Will Go To TNA When His Contract Expires With WWE. (Id Rather Be Hated For Who I Am, Than Loved For Who I Am Not 21:58, 17 January 2007 (UTC))

Give us sources to prove it. --  The  Hyb  rid  22:00, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK that is just a rumor running around the net, yes RVD is upset with WWE with the way things going on ECW, Paul Heyman, his bust in July, and his tour of Iraq.http://tribes.tribe.net/wrestlenews/thread/2824862c-c6ef-4de2-a717-4f28cf50aaae - --68.209.227.3 03:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

RVD and Iraq
Hello,

I don't know if that is relevant but shouldn't it be mentioned in the trivia section that RVD refused to attend the WWE Iraq shows?


 * (remember to sign your posts) He only did that once, though. Qubeh 19:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, he's refused to go twice. Once in 2004, and this past show for 2006. B mg 9 1 6  Speak to Me 19:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Two out of four isn't bad. Still, I don't think it's bad enough to be listed.  Qubeh 01:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Future in question?
''In regards to Rob Van Dam's contract status, if he didn't give in his notice by the end of last week, his contract would have automatically rolled over. This doesn't mean he's leaving, but it gives him the option to leave in the summer, and they'd have to renegotiate a new deal to keep him. Van Dam's downside guarantee is about $250,000. He probably actually makes about $500,000 if you include merchandise, pay-per-view payoffs and such. Although, he worked all those low drawing ECW house shows, and thus he got a lot of $500 to $750 payoffs while on top, so that may be a high estimate. The ECW guys are now working the higher grossing SmackDown shows, so his payoffs should be back up to speed again anyways.

Also, RVD has a standing offer to go to All Japan. Although, it doesn't seem to mean nearly as much as when he was a regular there earlier in his career because they run very few dates. But between All Japan, TNA, U.S. and Europeam indies, he should still be able to make a lot with far more time off, not to mention control of his schedule. That's why there is a good possibility that he could be leaving WWE in the summer. He'll probably be able to get about $2,500 or more per date on the indie scene, along with hotel & airfare expenses paid, at least at first. But once six months to a year have passed, it may be harder for him to get as many bookings at that rate.

There is talk within WWE of trying to get its "last word" in. Figuring he's leaving, Johnny Ace may make an offer that he'll probably turn down so that he can get the last word in, not to mention as a receipt for him embarrassing at a recent company meeting (RVD made a smart alec remarks towards Ace). People within WWE say that RVD has been telling people that he plans on leaving, but other people think he'll make his decision based on WWE's money offer. ''

Source: http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/1/2/wwenews/An_Update_On_Rob_Van_Dam_s_Contract_Status.php

Also it should be noted since the interest in RVD going to TNA, RVD's name was chanted at last Thursday's iMPACT show.--68.209.227.3 23:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Like said on several other pages, wikipedia is not a newswire. So i'm going to remove that info. Diivoo 01:41, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Did not extend WWE contract...?
Can anyone confirm this? --68.209.227.3 21:01, 28 April 2007 (UTC)


 * According to the 4/30 Wrestling Observer Newsletter, RVD turned down WWE's "final" contract offer. And according to the 5/7 issue, his last day with the company is set to be the television shows right after the 6/3 One Night Stand PPV. His contract ends sometime in the month of June, I believe. After that, he'd be free to work anywhere he wishes, as, due to his contract expiring, he will have no 90-day non-compete clause. 24.162.248.132 01:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I read somewhere that RVD is one of the mystery world champions that will wrestle for entry in the king of the mountain match. Is there anything currently to back this up? Vermon CaTaffy 8 19:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I Guess we'll find out on impact! this week RealTNAFan 7:26, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that RVD will change companies because he is still on the ECW roster page on wwe.com 68.54.174.43 20:32, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

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King of the Mountain
I also read something about him being one of the mystery former world champions. Will he leave for TNA? 207.69.137.23 21:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)He'll probaly leave for TNA.I think he'll sit out his contract first.Sabu will probaly be in TNA again too.But probaly not until August.Lopeyter 03:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Conflicting Information
On this page, it is stated that Rob Van Dam suffered a legit concussion at the hands of Randy Orton during his stretcher match, yet on Orton's page it is stated that the injury was kayfabe. Seeing as neither are sourced, which is it? Kevinazite 09:12, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Its kayfabe, RVDs contract ran out and something was needed to get him out of TV. Diivoo 01:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Currently Inactive?
Doesn't he still have a contract with WWE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.139.27 (talk) 09:28, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

He is not under contract to WWE, no. He is currently taking time out, please refrain from editing that he is with WWE and removing articles including Hiatus. Guns2006 11:36, 1 September 2007

Please refrain from removing Hiatus
He is on Hiatus from wrestling at this present moment, therefore can we please refrain from editing it until he returns to any form of wrestling organization  Guns2006 11:44, 1 September 2007
 * When he returns, we can note something like "After a brief hiatus from the wrestling industry Van Dam returned at (event) for (company) on (date)." Until then any information on his "hiatus" has been thus far been entirely un-sourced, and therefore cannot be included due to the potentially contentious nature of the specifics surrounding it. Wikipedia is not a primary source of information, and any information on this subject will need to be verified by a reliable neutral, third party source, with proper citations if it is to be included in this article per Wikipedia policies on verifiability and biographies of living people, thanks, and happy editing! Bmg 916 Speak 15:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

"Rob Van Dam" - "stage name" or owned by WWE?
I remember reading recently that should RVD sign with a company other than WWE, Vince McMahon would intend to assert that the name "Rob Van Dam" is actually property of the WWE (as the name of a character and not the stage name of a wrestler). Is that controversy still smoldering, or has there been some resolution? 147.70.242.40 20:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

owned by Rob Van Dam himself, as his site and such have not changed. Guns2006 11:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

High Times and Stage Name
In the article (towards the bottom of the page) it states (in parenthesis just like this) that it is a popular misconception that he appeared on the cover of high times magazine. He actually did appear on the cover with Sabu on what high times called the ECW edition. I have the cover if you would like a picture of it as proof. And, i dont know what it meant by misconception. They are ECW photos on a high times magazine cover. so maybe that is what it meant, since high times did not take the photograph by themselves??? But, RVD and Sabu were on a cover of high times. And yeah, he can use his stage name elsewhere. WWE does not own it.

Shooting?
I removed the section that stated RvD was involved in a shooting at his home in California on Nov 8, 2007, since I couldn't find anything to back this up, from Wrestling Rumour sites, to News Articles, or anything. If someone can find something to reference this with, please put it back in. ArickIdle 15:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Small chance of TNA run
Should the fact that RVD has been in talks with TNA for a contract signing be put in like it was for sabu's page even though the 2 are just talking and not really seeing eye to eye,cause van dam is really considering joining but not at the moment not until something good like a lighter schedule or something comes in anyway cause he's concentrating on family right now,but i think the fact that there in talks should still be posted anyone agrees/disagrees and btw the only reliable sources are wrestling news and spoiler sites.
 * According to who? Mshake3 (talk) 05:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Quite a few Wrestling news,Rumours,& Spoiler sites along with sabu trying to sign with them.


 * Such as....... Mshake3 (talk) 05:10, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Match with Booker T
He's scheduled to face Booker T in Booker's PWA promotion at their Christmas Chaos II event later this month. TonyFreakinAlmeida (talk) 17:15, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Signature moves section needs trimming
I may be able to get to this tomorrow, but I just thought I'd leave this note, since in all likelihood, I'm going to forget by then. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 01:26, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Real name
In this document it says that RVD's name is Robert Alex Szatowski, not Robert Alexander Szatkowski, but I don't know if it's a reliable source. Just wanted to tell you and ask if you could find out what's his real name... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nooreth (talk • contribs) 14:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

hardcore title
right rvd is the longest reging hardcard champion since the 24/7 rule i went to a lot of trouble to get that info for a progect i'm working on so editing it out plus it is a accoplishment for rvd and needs to be noted KCDavis (talk) 16:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

ok i have put this under accoplishments part where he won the hardcore title if you feel this should be removed please responed here rather then remove it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devil Thunderbolt (talk • contribs) 18:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)


 * What makes that notable? –Cheers, L  A  X  20:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

the fact that its 90 days long thats 7 less then the logest and he had to defend the title all the time KCDavis (talk) 10:45, 29 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, we [WP:PW] don't mention that anyway. –Cheers, L  A  X  10:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

u dont own wikipedia do u so stop that put wrestling fans i know are imreseed with this as am i but your ego is too big if i and mates at collage find it good and u dont thats about 18 - 1 so think we all have a right to say what we want not just you KCDavis (talk) 20:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Then you and your mates at college should join the WP:PW, go to the project discussion page and try to get a consensus in your favor. It's got nothing to do with ego, it's everything to do with consensus. If you want to try and get consensus in your favor, then you and your mates at college join the WP:PW and voice your thoughts on it. Otherwise, trivial matters such as who has the second longest or third longest or fourth longest or whatever reign with a title will be viewed as trivia rather than a major wrestling accomplishment.Odin&#39;s Beard (talk) 14:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)