Talk:Robert Chase

Chase and House
This article casts their relationship into a really harsh light. House does call Chase an idiot, but not to any notable extent. He never goes out of his way to do it. I'm rewording this.

What?
the Season 2 episode "The Mistake", in which House takes extraordinary measures to defend Chase and see that he doesn't get fired.

Seriously, what? When was this? Cause in the episode I watched, Stacy actually had to hunt House down to talk about what happened, and even then he did just what would be expected, nothing terribly out of his way, he didn't seem particularly worried or antsy about it. While he did talk to the medical board about the incident, because he's Chase's boss, and he had to. I am deleting this until it is explained.

Characterization
I would like to address some characterization issues I have with this article. Namely the descriptors ambitious and amoral. I suppose an argument could be made that Chase acted amorally with Vogler, but this was in exactly four episodes out of forty-six (Vogler was in five, but wasn't until his second that Chase's betrayal came into play). For forty-two episodes, when we've seen Chase step out of line? There's almost always some prompting from House -- not that Chase puts up much of a fight, but amoral certainly doesn't seem to be something he's naturally inclined to, and not at all a trait his character is so entrenched with that it should be one of the only three in his wiki.

Secondly, ambitious, which I'm guess is again coming from the Vogler episodes? As the rest of the time Chase is shown to be rather lethargic. I argue that Chase wasn't fighting to get ahead in those episodes -- he was simply fighting to remain working with House. He wasn't trying to work the situation to his advantage, or trying to come out on top, or anything else overtly ambitious, he was just trying to not be kicked out. This doesn't strike me as ambitious as much as. . . wanting to stay.

The bit about it has implied he has become religious is a bit odd, considering the fact that it was blatantly stated that Chase was going to become a priest before going to med school. I feel the bit saying he is getting interested in his religion again and that is why he's no longer amoral is just ridiculous. It was somewhat obvious that Chase was doing what he needed to do to stay working with House, and now that that is no longer an issue, he is simply acting as he normally would. How could he even stir shit up at this point? Start poisoning the patients? What?

Anyway, I feel the entire first paragraph needs to be completely redone, it's obvious tons of hands have touched it, and it's all over the place. If no one objects, I will do so. And am doing so. And have done it. : P

Mini House?
I quote: Chase has been called by some a "Mini-House", for various reasons, mostly because they look so much alike

I don't see a resemblance - is this a joke?

Some Changes
I made some revisions on this article but they were changed back, so I will take it step by step and then whoever has a problem with it can maybe explain to me why I am wrong.

I revised this

''Chase has been called by some a "Mini-House", for various reasons, though they don't look alike. Adding to the similarities between him and his boss, Chase often suggests unconventional treatments before the others. Chase is also often the only one to show amusement at his boss's cruel jokes. Perhaps most tellingly, in seasons 1 and 3, Chase seems to be "sucking up" to House on a regular basis, earning him the ire of his co-workers.''

to read this

''In the differential diagnosis that takes place in every show, Chase's suggestions almost always tie into something the patient of the week has done to themselves, usually due to drugs or risky behavior. It could be argued this is driven by his own past experiences with self destructive behavior, a want to please House, or a combination of both. Chase is often the only one to show amusement at his boss's callous jokes.''

Because Mini-House is not a nickname referred to in any notable branch of canon or fanon and there was only one reason given for why they are alike. In fact, while parallels between Foreman and House are drawn constantly, and even once or twice for Cameron, there has no mention that Chase is similar to House in any outstanding way. It is not fit for an article that is supposed to be unbiased in any case.

Also, "most tellingly" that Chase is sucking up to House? In what way does that make him like House? House sucks up to who? When? You cannot have these two concepts existing in the same paragraph.

I changed the unconventional treatments bit, because they rarely suggest treatments at all. The mystery of the show lies in WHAT the PoTW has, once that's figured out there's an intimidate understanding for each doctor about what the treatment will be. There have been a handful of episodes were unusual treatment has been called for because of a complication with the patient. I believe "diagnosis" is what you were looking for, and unconventional is a bizarre descriptor for a diagnosis. Unusual works better in my opinion, but please, I'd love to pick bones about this. I also added the bit about him almost always looking at the PotW's activities or drug usage for causes because that's what he does. If you have a problem with this, I would be glad to come up with some examples, but because I know this is going to be quite long, I'll keep this brief for now.

I changed cruel to callous because House is actually rarely cruel. Cruel implies a want to give others pain, whereas House doesn't really care if he gives pain, he just wants his answers and sometimes people get hurt along the way, and he enjoys being funny. His remarks are offhand and callous, I wouldn't say cruel, and by saying Chase is amused by his cruel comments puts a darker spin on both of the characters I don't think is supposed to be there in the show. Again, I would love to debate on this.

NOW, Chase mainly seems to want House's respect, but House rarely affords anyone that. I removed because again, this is supposed to be unbiased and that is a line more fit for a fanfic. While I agree that Chase does want House's respect, at the very least that second part should be changed since it's very easily argued that House respects several people (Foreman, Wilson, Cameron, Cuddy and I think Chase on some degree), and, more importantly, this is not a wiki on Gregory House.

The third paragraph I edited because I felt was too wordy and did a poor job of explaining the Tritter incident. I don't feel any important information was taken out, but again, all ears over here.

Anymore is one word. Wilson responds quickly by making a deal with Tritter himself, averting a possible harsher sentence for House. This is not a wiki on Wilson. If this is to be included at all I think something should be added about Wilson and Chase's relationship, perhaps adding at the end of that, "even though Chase and Wilson don't seem to have been brought any closer after this incident" or "Even though Chase seemed to be unaware of this." Just, something that ties it into Chase.

''He eventually gives in and gives her a peck on the lips. House soon deduces this has happened and exposes Chase in front of Cameron and Foreman, humiliating him.'' was removed because while yes, Chase was embarrassed in that scene, this is a horrendous wording of it. I should've reworded it I suppose, but there you are. I am changing it back to the revision I made. Please comment here if you have any qualms with that so we can discuss it and come to an agreement. There's more than one POV of this character.

Also, while we're here, However, Chase might not be overly moralistic, that is the clunkiest thing I've seen this side of the Mississippi. I'm rewording it, unless someone objects?


 * Perhaps Chase's success in diagnostics should be added to this article, because his growth as a doctor has been shown throughout season 3, most notably in "Finding Judas" when he has a very "House" moment of inspiration and diagnosis the little girl with an allergy to light, proving House wrong. In "Insensitive" he clearly takes a leadership roll in the team while House is away stalking Cuddy on her date. In "Words and Deeds" Cameron states that Chase comes up with breakthroughs for the case and in "Top Secret" Foreman supports and follows through with Chase's suggestion that they flush the traces of uranium from the patient's body, even though House told them not to.

No.
House does not tease Chase about being English. This was a throw away line at the beginning the series, mentioned exactly ONCE.

Chase's Evil Twin, Chad
I got my information over at http://capslockhouse.pbwiki.com/CHAD. I am assuming now that it's a spoiler for future episodes, but I initially thought this sort of thing would've been established in season 1. Should I add a spoiler warning to the article?

Cleaning up
"Cameron, in behavior uncharacteristic of her, initiated sex in strange or risky places such as the sleep lab and a patient's house."

I deleted "in behavior uncharacteristic of her" because that interpretation depends on the specific viewer, and furthermore descriptions of this type have nothing to do with Dr. Robert Chase and should be left in the appropriate page.

Trivia Section
I am erasing the trivia section. EVERY SINGLE one of them is inaccurate, out of place or an extreme exaggeration. None of it needs to be worked in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.250.117.234 (talk • contribs)

Does Chase have an MD or an MB.BS?
The article describes Chase as an MD and says that he undertook a pre-medical degree at the University of Sydney. That seems very unlikely, because the University of Sydney didn't award MD professional doctorates until 2014. Before then its medical degree was not a professional doctorate but an MB.BS (double bachelor's). And USyd still doesn't have a pre-medical degree as such: the closest it comes is a Bachelor of Medical Science. Chase is young enough to have attended USyd after they started teaching medicine as a graduate program (in 1997), but wouldn't have studied pre-medicine (which isn't a thing in Australia) or been awarded an MD. To have an Australian MD before 2014 Chase would have had to have completed post-doctoral research doctorate.

Agemegos (talk) 15:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)