Talk:Robert Dale Owen

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His father Robert Owen was not a socialist. He was a mill owner and a capitalist. He believed in kindness and believed this was the way to get the best from his workers, but they were still his workers. I suspect the US threshold for defining something as "socialist" is quite low. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.112.58 (talk) 21:00, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Robert Owen is considered a socialist not because he "believed in kindness," but because of his criticisms of capitalism combined with his proposals to reorganize society (and eventually the world) on new lines going far beyond anything he did at his mills. In fact Friedrich Engels (himself the manager of a textile business) wrote in Anti-Dühring that Owen's Book of the New Moral World contained "the most clear-cut communism possible." Robert Dale Owen, on the other hand, ended up a supporter of private property in no small part due to the failure of his father's experiment at New Harmony. --Ismail (talk) 09:51, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

indiana bill of rights
i was under the impression - and i coud be wrong - that owen was a major payer in the 1851 constitutional revision of the bill of rights, section 1 of the indiana constitution. no mention of that in the article, just mentions a different article of the revised constitution.

2601:48:C601:50E0:BD01:F58C:480F:8E48 (talk) 21:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)arbitraryaardvark gtbear at gmail.