Talk:Robert Finn (bishop)

Not the first
Sloppy research by the Associated Press on calling Finn "the first charged". Other bishops have been charged, and the one I knew from memory was Thomas Ludger Dupré whose article here is well-sourced. Non-controversially then, Robert Finn is "one of the first". More careful writers will probably be able to identify all the indicted Catholic bishops in due course. patsw (talk) 17:21, 16 October 2011 (UTC)





Since the article was edited incorrectly after my correction, I have copied over the citations to this talk page. patsw (talk) 23:31, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

new info: 2011-11-15
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/16/us/kansas-city-bishop-makes-deal-to-avoid-more-criminal-charges.html

Not the first bishop indicted, but rather the first bishop to be indicted for his supervisory role
Robert Finn does appear to be the first bishop to be indicted, not as a perpetrator of child sex abuse, but rather because the prosecutor alleged that the bishop's work in managing other priests constituted a criminal act. With that in mind, read the lead of the NYT piece:

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A bishop in the Roman Catholic Church has been indicted for failure to report suspected child abuse, the first time in the 25-year history of the church’s sex abuse scandals that the leader of an American diocese has been held criminally liable for the behavior of a priest he supervised.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/15/us/kansas-city-bishop-indicted-in-reporting-of-abuse-by-priest.html

Anon. 3-12-2012

The intalian description of the law
The La Stampa source says that the law requires "everyone" to report. That contradicts the accounts of the legal motions in the case, and Bishop Finn's own defense -- that only "designated reporters" are required to report. Bishop Finn's defense consists in large part in arguing that Msgr. Murphy, not Bishop Finn, was the designated reporter. Also, I don't see any cite for how "new" the law is. I'm going to stick with the National Catholic Reporter, NYT, and Kansas City Star on this one and remove the La Stampa cite and mischaracterization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.42.187 (talk) 10:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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