Talk:Robert Metzenberg

I am Robert Metzenberg’s son Howard, the last of his biological family remaining as my brother Stan and my mother Helene have both passed away. I wanted to offer a correction here.

My father was not offered a professorship at the University of Wisconsin when he arrived in Madison in 1955, the year before I was born. He was like every other newly minted PhD a postdoctoral fellow and his initial project was not even a molecular genetics project. He was in the lab of Philip P. Cohen, who was chairman of a non-clinical department in the School of Medicine.

He had some kind of research fellowship that year and was not supposed to have to teach, but the University was desperately short of teaching help and platooned him almost immediately as an instructor, a non-tenure track position. In 1959-60 our family spent the academic year in Zurich, Switzerland so that he could do a second postdoctoral fellowship in which he aimed to pick up the latest research skills in molecular genetics.

It was after he returned from Zurich in the period 1960-62 that he was finally offered a tenure track position at the University of Wisconsin. And this job offer was controversial in his department with several senior professors opposing this move into molecular genetics, preferring instead an old school biochemistry focus. Not until he secured tenure in the late 1960s did he really have a secure place in his department.

You would find documentation for this in the oral history project of the University of Wisconsin, Madison, which includes many transcripts and recordings of people from the university, discussing the history and development of the university and its departments.

Howard Metzenberg, March 24, 2024 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.126.97.201 (talk) 07:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

I would be willing to answer questions
Plindenbaum, I haven't been active on Wikipedia for many months. Today (July 15th, 2008) is the first anniversary of my father's passing (Robert Metzenberg). I happened to search for his memorial page, written by some of his scientific colleagues, and I came upon this page, which you apparently started a few weeks ago. I was very touched. It wouldn't be appropriate for me to contribute directly to this page, but I am happy to answer questions about him and his research, although my brother would a better source. As his son, I am obviously too close to the subject. If you see a picture you like on his memorial page, I could scan one for the public domain. Metzenberg (talk) 03:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Metzenberg, thank you for your mail. When I've time to spare, I'm watching after the biographies in pubmed and I create the missing articles in wikipedia. I guess this article about your father has been recently released in ncbi/pubmed. Please, feel free to add any information/picture to complete this article. --Plindenbaum (talk) 12:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Plindenbaum, I am going to recuse myself from editing directly on the page because I am his son. Instead, I will provide you with information here and let somebody else write and edit onto the page. First of all, I would recommend adding these sources:


 * Rowland H. Davis. Neurospora. Contributions of a Model Organism. Oxford University Press, Oxford, 2000. ISBN 0-19-512236-4.


 * Rowland H. Davis. "Genetics of Neurospora". in Ulrich Kück (editor), The Mycota: A Comprehensive Treatise on Fungi as Experimental Systems for Basic and Applied Research. Springer. pp 6-20. ISBN-10 3540580034.


 * Rowland H. Davis. The Microbial Models of Molecular Biology. From Genes to Genomes. Oxford University Press, New York, 2003


 * Rowland Davis is professor emeritus at the University of California, Irvine. Since his retirement from teaching and research, Davis has written many books and articles on the history of genetics in the 20th century.


 * The first two sources contain references for my father's research on genetic regulation of metabolic pathways in eukaryotes. Neurospora crassa was one of a handful of model organisms that were selected and intensively studied by scientists in the middle 20th century as a key to understanding how all organisms work. In the 1950s-1970s, studies with Neurospora tended to focus on cellular reproduction, cellular architecture (ribosomes, etc.), and metabolic processes. Robert Metzenberg's research in the 1960s and 1970s focused on metabolic regulation of sulfates and phosphates. He was the first to provide experimental verification of positive and negative feedback loops in gene regulation in eukaryotes. In the process, he was one of first scientists who demonstrated that the eukaryotic cell has many post-transcription regulatory mechanisms outside of the classical transcriptional framework (DNA to RNA).


 * The final source ("Microbial Models") includes a brief discussion of the work that my father did in the late 1990s and 2000s, together with Rodolfo Aramayo and Patrick Shiu. In 1996 he discovered a post-transcriptional epigenetic mechanism which has come to be known as meiotic silencing of unpaired DNA, or simply meiotic silencing. Meiotic silencing, similar to transvection, is a genome defense mechanism whereby the cell silences the expression of unpaired DNA during cellular reproduction to prevent parasitic interference and intervention. Unpaired DNA is likely to be viral DNA.


 * In addition to feedback loops, post-transcription regulatory mechanisms, and meiotic silencing, he did a lot of other basic research on Neurospora crassa. In particular, he was responsible for a technique called restriction fragment length polymorphism (RFLP) mapping, which he and his associates used to produce a gene map of Neurospora. This technique is still used, however it is being superseded by polymerase chain reaction techniques, and by direct sequencing of genomes, as the cost of sequencing continues to decline.


 * Almost all papers in the biological sciences in general and genetics in particular are conducted by teams, usually with a principal investigator who is responsible for obtaining funding, as well as providing overall management and direction. Some projects involve large numbers of long distance collaborators. As a scientist he worked under a single grant from the National Institute for Health, and he usually maintained a laboratory with 3-5 post-doctoral fellows, 1-2 graduate students, and a technician. I know that there was elaborate protocol that determined which names were included and in what order. It was always his practice to put his name last in the author list on papers in which he was the principal investigator.


 * As far as honors and rewards, two principal ones should be added to the article. He served as President of the Genetics Society of America (about 1989-90?). Verify dates on their website. He was elected to the National Academy of Sciences in 1997.


 * He died in Los Angeles, California. The dates are correct. As to the known for entry in the box, you could say:


 * feedback loops and post-transcriptional mechanisms in genetic regulation of eukaryotes
 * RFLP mapping
 * meiotic silencing


 * As long as you are creating science oriented pages, I would recommend that there be one for both meiotic silencing and for Rowland Davis. Metzenberg (talk) 01:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)