Talk:Robert Mugabe

Misspellings
Page is protected but the name "Tsvangirai" is misspelled in different ways throughout the article. Can someone fix this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.172.68.237 (talk) 22:31, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Corrected the two errors I saw. If there are others, please re-open this edit request (change |answered=yes to |answered=no) and state where they are in the article. Thanks! NiciVampireHeart 14:57, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

In the first paragraph of the "Economic decline: 1995–2000" section, tripled is spelled "trebled". - 67.80.164.161 (talk) 20:37, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: that is not an error. Elizium23 (talk) 22:51, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Guccwasressive? Hahaha lol SalineBrain (talk) 08:41, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

New main image
Proposed new main image


 * Support; I think that the 1979 image is more appropriate than the (established) 2015 image. The latter features Mugabe leaning towards the right, away from the viewer and the text and thus is perhaps not the best image for this location. Also, I think it makes sense to depict Mugabe in his 'prime' as it were, just on the cusp of becoming Prime Minister, rather than as a frail old man. It was in the 1970s and 1980s that he was arguably a far more important figure on the world stage so depicting him at this stage in his life might be more appropriate. Moreover, going for the 2015 image might simply be WP:Recentism Midnightblueowl (talk) 22:07, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Support; A very great image, composed well. Would fit the infobox. Lochglasgowstrathyre (talk) 17:10, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment; It is an alright image, and will do for now, though it is in black and white. I suggest finding a decent resolution of the most recent official state photograph as seen here and uploading it to the Commons for use on all the various language versions of Wikipedia, as under Zimbabwean law it is not copyrighted as an official government document. It makes most sense to have the official presidential portrait of him as the main image, just as the American presidents and other world leaders have, for example.  Mangwanani  (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

What happened to the "Sir" in Sir Robert Mugabe's name?
Censorship like the aforesaid truly cheapens the truthfulness of wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.239.132 (talk) 01:05, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The late President Robert Gabriel Mugabe, GCB, received an honorary knighthood, Knight Commander of the Order of Bath. Because it is an honorary knighthood, the late President was not allowed to be addressed as Sir Robert. 83.84.100.133 (talk) 16:42, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Removing references to "white"
White is a colour, not a politically associated group of people. I recommend removal of colour-associated identification as this is considered racially defamatory and a breach of United Nations Bill of human rights to which most nations in earth are signatory. In line with UN human rights objectives, I suggest that racial identification not be colour coded but rather use political heritage identifiers instead. Ashattock (talk) 23:07, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hang on there a moment, what do the sources say? If the sources are unanimous about using "white" to describe the minority and opposition, then you do not get to reinterpret them to say "European" and things like that. What do the sources say? Have you read them? Elizium23 (talk) 23:27, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2020
Robert Mugabe is the Former President of Zimbabwe and he WAS the former prime minister of Zimbabwe. Please edit Robert Mugabe- Former President of Zimbabwe on the cover page that appears first before you enter Wikipedia. Thank you --105.184.50.19 (talk) 18:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)Dr G Macherechedze 105.184.50.19 (talk) 18:08, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: The article lede already says he served as president. Not sure what "cover page" you are referring to.  If you mean the Google Knowledge Graph that shows up in searches, then that is a Google issue not a Wikipedia issue.  RudolfRed (talk) 18:19, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

New Main Infobox Image
We should change the lead infobox image to this. It’s relatively clear, it has the Zimbabwean flag in the background, it’s in color, and it was his first official portrait as Prime Minister. The current image has motion blur, it’s in B&W, and it was taken nearly a decade before he actually became Prime Minister. Thoughts? The Image Editor (talk) 18:10, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose: bad colors, damaged photo, not actually identifiable as Zimbabwean flag, not an improvement. Elizium23 (talk) 21:53, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Much poorer quality. No blur in current image. And what will it take to get you to understand that color is not always better? Sundayclose (talk) 19:20, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Support - this is an official photo of him as head of state, and it's in color. For an infobox, I think this better represents who Robert Mugabe was to the average person reading about him (i.e. he was much more notable for his 40-year tenure as prime minister than for his previous actions). I don't see how it's poorer quality. The current picture is higher resolution, sure, and it belongs in the article, but in the infobox? I dunno. jp×g 23:13, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Support / Oppose - I have made this observation above in this section. I also suggested that this photo is the ideal photo to use, as it is his official portrait as President. However, I agree with the comments above, that this rendering is of poor quality and the colours are off. If someone still has a copy of the portrait from a public building from before he was ousted, can they scan it in and upload it, using the copyright tag?  Mangwanani  (talk) 16:21, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Distracting and misleading wording. Edit request
If I have missed the correct way to suggest editing, please put these suggestions in the correct place. 1. "he met a number of Jewish South African communists" Since there is no discussion of Jews or Jewish influence, the adjective "Jewish" here is a distraction, and for some, a disparagement. The text should be: "he met a number of South African communists" 2. "ordered a number of Marxist tracts—among them Karl Marx's Capital" "Tracts" makes the publications sound insubstantial and ephemeral. They are books. The text should be: "ordered a number of Marxist books—among them Marx's Capital" 3. "second degree by correspondence, this time a Bachelor of Administration from the University of London International Programmes through distance and learning." Wordy. A correspondence degree is distance learning. The text should be: "second degree by correspondence, this time a Bachelor of Administration from the University of London International Programmes. Mwalimu0 (talk) 18:39, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Proposed Main Infobox Photo


How about this main Infobox photo proposal for the article of Robert Mugabe? Got any thoughts? 2001:D08:D2:1FC9:298E:639D:B47D:B0C4 (talk) 14:38, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

New mainbox image
I think this particular photograph would be better for the infobox than the current one. Firekong1 (talk) 04:33, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Oppose per MOS:PORTRAIT, It is often preferable to place a portrait (image or representation of a person) so that they "look" toward the text, but do not achieve this by reversing the image, which creates a false presentation. (Faces are never truly symmetric even in the absence of scars or other features.). &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 15:37, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Find a Grave website article which claims Robert Mugabe was buried in National Heroes Acre cemetery is false and should in no way be considered a reliable source
Zimbabawe government plans, which may or may not have have been the basis for this erroneous Find a Grave article, were later altered. The former Zimbabwe leader would instead be buried in his Kutama home.Speakfor23 (talk) 18:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

It is good that Wikipedia has the Template:Find a Grave article which notes why Find a Grave can be an unreliable source.Speakfor23 (talk) 18:45, 5 June 2024 (UTC)