Talk:Robert Pires

Previous clubs
st anne de reims(as a child) he then moved to stade de reims and then finally moved to metz, marseille and arsenal.

i know a couple of robert pires sites if any1 might want to go on.

www.ifrance.com/carobby http://pavelicious.boo.pl/fls/robert/

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SPAIN?????????? Where did he's spanish career info go..who the hell removed it...pliz bring it back someone..hello????...is there anyone who can respond to this coz that SPAIN CAREER INFO was one of the ways we kept informed about our Pires....pliz bring it back...I only see his french,english and international career info....so the moderators pliz respond and bring that section back...!!!!!!!!! 210.7.1.72 08:07, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

SOME INFO ON ROBBY PIRES
robert was not from portugeese background...his father is portugeese (Antonio) and his mother is spanish (Mabel)...he only has one little brother who's french called Tony! he has no other brothers and sisters...

he got married to Nathalie Pires...in 14th april 1998..they had no children...they divorced after 5yrs marriage. to view the wedding pictures vist www.rexfeatures.com and search under Nathalie Pires.

roberts favourite subjects at school was History, Geography, but most of all he enjoyed Sports.

robert also has his own autobiography out in which he talks about his sporting lifestyle.

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BORN IN REIMS...
robert wasn't born in Metz... he was born in Reims...

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Spelling of his last name
Could someone explain here why there is an accent over the E in Pires? I can find no official record of this accent. It's his portuguese father's name, and there is no accent in that portuguese name...

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Stats and infobox
much as i loved pires, he's no longer in arsenal so i'm not keeping tabs on his entry anymore. someone please update his stats (total dom app/goals are missing) and correct the information box, since the app/goals are for domestic league only... then again, i wonder who invented the 'domestic' only criteria... Chensiyuan 09:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Soccerbase and FDB agree on the domestic league stats, so I'll adjust them to that. Hopefully one of the sites will provide accurate figures for his career in Spain, for periodic updates.  Slumgum   T.   C. ''  21:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Would like to add that Jessica Pires is not Australian, she is French. Her maiden name is Lemarie. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

fa community shield Pires has won two fa community shields with arsenal..in 2002 and 2004...please add this info as well —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * The article is now up to date with Pires' recent appearances for Villareal. Slow Graffiti 03:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Personal Life
"Personal life

Pires likes parkour and would commute to Arsenal's training ground this way. He was very close to team mate Thierry Henry and misses him terribly."

Perhaps this section needs to be removed? Or at least seriously edited. I think we can all see the problems with this part of the article. 86.3.202.61 20:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, it should definitely be removed. The first part isn't quite coherent.  I don't know much about the relationship between Henry and Pires.  They are surely friends - they were apart of the France squad '98-'04, arrived at Arsenal around the same time and remained together for six seasons.  Always got along on the pitch.  But very close?  Misses him terribly?  It's no secret that Pires wasn't happy about leaving Arsenal and wouldn't mind returning to finish his career, but I've not heard anything about him missing Henry.  I've not purchased his autobiography yet - I will, and will report back if there's anything of note concerning such relationships. Slow Graffiti 02:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

where is pires' "personal life" section..please can somebody update hez "personal life" section coz i've seen that other players have it but not pires..update about he's marriage,he's daughter,parents,brother,hez 1st divorce,controversy with french coach etc etc.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

Honours
First of all,is anybody listening to the suggestions we put here coz all the suggestions i've seen,hardly half of it is in the Pires page...ANYWAY IF THE EDITORS ARE READING THIS,I HAVE A GENUINE "HONOURS" SECTION INFO WHICH U CAN UPDATE: PIRES HAS WON 2 FA COMMUNITY SHIELDS WITH ARSENAL..IN 2002 AND IN 2004..PLEASE UPDATE THIS IN YOUR HONOURS SECTION 210.7.2.229 12:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)piresgooner


 * Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit. Sʟυмgυм • т • c  12:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Nicknames
who removed pires' nicknames from the list.."Bobby".."Le Bob"..etc —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * Hi, welcome to Wikipedia. If you sign your comments and place it at the bottom, someone is more likely to answer. The nickname feature of the infobox was removed as per consensus at Template talk:Infobox football biography. No footballer has a nickname in their infobox now. regards, SeveroTC 10:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Complaint in Wigan match day program
How could he have complained in the Wigan match day programme? That match was before the UCL final. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)


 * No, actually it was almost a year later. He was interviewed for the program for the February *2007* match v. Wigan, as the article states. The Champions League Final was in May of the previous year.  - Slow Graffiti 23:57, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Spainish career section?????...where is it???
Pires is now playing for villareal which is in spain,of course....so why isn't there any section of his spainish career...there's only his french,english and international career section...can please someone put it up there..there still are bobby's fans out there so we wanna know how he's doin in spain...are there any moderators who can look upon this please...thank you....Mr.Pires will be very happy indeed...--Robert7000 08:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It's been a while since your statement, but you may be interested to know people just like you (and I, fans of Pires or football in general) are the ones that update these articles. If information is missing here, you're encouraged to look elsewhere for it and come back to update Pires' entry!  Slow Graffiti (talk) 07:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Spanish update 2007/2008
Can someone update his spain stat for 2007/2008 for his copa del rey and europe.He has scored 1 goal and also has assisted 1 in the match against UD Las Palmas in a 4-2 win.Actually I have a video of that match so i'd know.He has made 4 appearance in copa del rey with 1 goal.Also he has made 2 appearance in UEFA Cup with 0 goals.

So in Copa del rey: 4-appearances 1-goal....In Europe: 2 appearances 0-goal

I wud have edited it myself but I dont know how to.So please can someone do it.thank you.Robert7000 (talk) 04:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit request from 92.30.15.102, 17 November 2010
edit semi-protected

Robert Pires currently plays for Aston Villa

92.30.15.102 (talk) 20:28, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No he doesn't, as of this moment he is still in "negotiations" with the club over a contract. He is not a Villa player until a contract is signed. Woody (talk) 20:41, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Cheat?
No mention in this article of the infamous 'cheating' incident versus Portsmouth? Please don't say it's not notable - just search 'Pires cheat'.78.147.19.42 (talk) 23:21, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Don't be ridiculous, mate. Pires really doesn't have a rep for diving. Blown way out of proportion by the English press. I can name at least 10 players worthy of a 'cheat' section if Pires deserves one. Blckbrr7 (talk) 09:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 28 September 2018

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Moved as proposed. bd2412 T 22:34, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

Robert Pirès → Robert Pires – It appears to me as though Pirès is not the correct spelling of the subject's surname. For example, this entry in the Journal officiel de la République française spells the surname as Pires, while including diacritics for other names, such as for Lionel Charbonnier and Bernard Diomède. The subject himself spells his surname as Pires on his Twitter and Facebook accounts. And there's WP:COMMONNAME: A quick search of Robert Pires on Google News shows no instances of the surname spelt with the diacritic. Mattythewhite (talk) 01:23, 28 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 10:01, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose. If we take French spelling as canonical, the situation there is relatively clear:
 * L'Equipe: Pirès (look down the page, uppercase E is normally rendered without diacritics)
 * Le Parisien: Pirès
 * French Football Federation: Pirès
 * RTL.fr: Pirès
 * La voix du nord: Pirès
 * Europe1: Pirès
 * France Football: Pirès
 * Granted, there are also sites that use the accentless form, such as:
 * L'Union
 * Le Parisien (2)
 * Football 365
 * but those are in minority, and on balance, I think that the evidence indicates that Pirès is the correct form. No such user (talk) 09:37, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Changed to Support having read Roman Spinner's explanation about Portuguese origin of the surname and self-identification, an in line with my own previous reasoning at similar Talk:Kevin_Mayer No such user (talk) 16:30, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I've checked the site of the French Football Federation, which, if you search by typing "site:fff.fr "robert pires"" on your browser, does *not* exclusively refer to the subject as Pirès, as is implied above. I've not checked any of the other sites, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're also inconsistent in their spelling. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:21, 5 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Oppose It may be good shorthand to write Pires (which is what he may have done for social media for the Anglospheric supporters), but the majority of sources use the diacritic. This just seems to be a one off source that asserts it or it could just be a simple typo.  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 11:31, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Could you show some evidence of what you claim to be the "majority of sources"? Because you must be looking at very different sources to me! Mattythewhite (talk) 14:16, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support. While he is a French citizen, born in France, Robert Pires carries the surname of his Portuguese father. As indicated in the lead sentence of Wikipedia's entry for Pires, There are 30 individuals who are subjects of Wikipedia articles, along with six other uses of "Pires" listed at that page and the only one with the forced accent mark is the footballer in question. His own preference in the public display of his surname should be respected and the linguistically misplaced accent mark removed.    Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 14:05, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Support Rreagan007 (talk) 20:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
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2002 FA Cup
Hey, just wondering why the article says Pires only won 2 FA Cups, and the honours list doesn't mention the 2002 FA Cup. He was injured for the final, yes, but still received a winners' medal, as he had been part of the squad for the majority of the campaign. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleakridge (talk • contribs) 13:44, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Source for that?  The C of E God Save the Queen!  ( talk ) 15:37, 5 August 2020 (UTC)