Talk:Robert Scoble/Archives/2012

why do we care
Scobble is interesting but very much a self promotor w/ an annoying laugh...like a HAM radio operator.

Vfd
On April 8, 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Votes for deletion/Robert Scoble for a record of the discussion. &mdash;Korath (Talk) 03:12, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

Stub?
Why does this thing have a MS Windows stub? He isn't a part of MS Windows, but rather, a MS Employee. DoomBringer 06:10, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

CBO?
Can anyone cite a source for his promotion to CBO? I can't find a durn thing, and it sounds too outlandish to be true. DoomBringer 06:17, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

He isn't CBO, and so I've deleted it - he notes in an interview at at ActiveWin that the Wikipedia entry is wrong on this. ianbetteridge, 10:36 25 October 2005

How long at Microsoft?
How long has he been working at Microsoft for? Since when? I read somewhere that he has been working with Bill Gates in 1994 - is that true? Can someone please verify this? --Gary King 01:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
 * 2.5 years, as of one of his latest posts

Irrelevant External Links moved to Talk Page
I moved these here from the external links section. I think that these blogs are irrelevant to the article. If these people had their own articles in wikipedia (i.e. if they were notable) then it owuld be okay to link to their blogs -- having these in Robert Scoble's article because they are immediate family is just wrong. --Ben Houston 20:18, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


 * spaces.msn.com/members/maryamie His wife Maryam's blog
 * miniscobleizer.blogspot.com His son Patrick's blog
 * itmanager.blogs.com His brother Alex's personal blog
 * www.computerworld.com/blogs/scoble His brother Alex's Computerworld blog
 * scobleizer.wordpress.com/2005/12/19/my-wikipedia-policy His Wikipedia-editing policy

Why is this important?
I wonder how that such thing as a MS employee has an article in the Wikipedia, so, should I do mine? I think this page is irrelevant for the whole project... —This unsigned comment was added by 83.32.175.45 (talk • contribs).


 * Scoble is also a published author and, more generally, one of the Internet's most well-known technical evangelists, especially around corporate blogging. The fact that he collects pay from Microsoft is not relevant to his notability; the fact that his name garners more than five million hits on Google certainly does.  Warrens 19:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I've never heard of this guy either. This came up as an unwanted result in a search I did. I don't think he's relevant. Certainly not his family life. *yawn* —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaxxon (talk • contribs) 22:02, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikinews interview in the works
See n:Wikinews:Water_cooler/proposals --  Zanimum 14:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation?
Is it Sc-Ahh-ble or Sc-Ohh-ble?


 * Rhymes with "noble". --Michael Geary 22:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Slight cleanup
I'm making some changes to wording/syntax to make this read more "encyclopedic", if you will. No content changes though. Canjecricketer 12:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Removing Salary Info
I'm removing the details about Scoble's salary change upon joining Podtech.net for a couple of reasons: first, none of the sources cited provide this figure; second, it is too ambiguous to be meaningful "from under $100,000 to over $100,00" (that could mean he went from 99k to 101k- we have no idea); and three, I'm really not sure how relevant this is. I think it is enough to say that his salary increased, and I have changed it accordingly. Canjecricketer 13:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Authorship?
This reads as if he wrote it himself or one of his "fans". Is there an entry on every influential blogger? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.245.18 (talk) 23:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Narcissistic self-promoter?
Look at this guy. How is this article fair or credible? This is a guy who may have some notoriety, but we don't put people who are popular with 100,000 'friends' on myspace on wikipedia. What has this guy contributed, other than popularity, self-promotion, and opinion?

Give me a break, we can't give an article to every high-flown blogger. Or as his fans come on here call him "widely recognised phenomenon." Yeah, is he a foreign head of state or something? --Drinkadrink (talk) 10:28, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

He is a promoter of openness. People and organizations have paid attention, and some have become more open themselves, partially as a result of his efforts. And a genuine person himself. Disclaimer: though we've barely even maintained contact, I've considered Robert a friend since our SDForum days. Filterbob (talk) 01:37, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

"Scoblecruft" - Self-aggrandizing & praising on wikipedia
First, I would like to apologize for sounding rash.

his article has the tone and content which is a Conflict of interest.

We're posting about this guy's wife, his books (which is up for Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Naked_Conversations), his blog, etc. This guy can promote himself somewhere else. The toxicity of this individual's article is appalling.

When I'm done reading this article, it feels like an advertisement. I say in my head, "Get over yourself". This guy's CV is thin and strewn out compared to other people on wikipedia who have much less. It's not personal against the individual per say, but against blogcruft/advertising. --Drinkadrink (talk) 15:00, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Cleaning up Scoble's blogcruft
Currently the attention of critiquing this article is likely to be undermined by fanboys who praise this blogger. This is typical stuff, but I would like it to be known that we had good reason to AfD here.
 * This is not a place for self-bios or resumes (His second AfD)
 * Notability of his book (Book AfD)
 * Notability of his book's co-author (Shel Israel AfD).

It's pretty obvious his article is being manipulated so this guy can cash in on his book. WP: Is not a PR platform to cash in and have self-glory --Drinkadrink (talk) 22:44, 25 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I totally agree that this guy is not notable, but good luck getting the article deleted with the crowd of techno-geek fans he has. (Yes I am a geek too, and no, having a geek fan crowd does not notability make.) -- Nils (talk) 15:06, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Unit of measurement && Egoblogger mentions
How does referring to Scoble's inside blog joke of a "Unit of measurement" make any encyclopedic sense? This guy is pretty self-aggrandizing.. I think we should highlight allegations of his self-flattery --Drinkadrink (talk) 14:53, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Here is the section requested to be appended:

Egoblogger
Across the various blogs, especially Gawker (formerly Valleywag), Scoble has gained notoriety as an 'egoblogger'. This has become a meme that has spread across various blogs.

This sites various sources. This sources for scoble+egoblogger on google are higher than "milliscoble", and that has been on this article for years. --Drinkadrink (talk) 20:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Egoblogger Removed
Removed the section about egoblogging due to the fact that the references cited have either been taken down (like the urbandictionary citation and quotation) or don't provide specific support for the cited claims (such as the google search). After removing the unsupported claims and quotation, there was nothing left of the section, so I just removed it. It was arguably a bit defamatory to begin with, so leaving it in, particularly without suitable citations, would not be appropriate for an encyclopedic entry. Tylerl (talk) 09:32, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

what is a technical evangelist?
i've never heard this artificial sounding term before in my life. it's not in widespread use and should not be used in the manner it is in this article. perhaps one could say, "[insert obscure nerd's name here] has been labelled by some a 'technological evangalist'"... but it is not encyclopedic to toss the phrase around like it has some kind of real-world meaning and authority, outside maybe robert scoble's fans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.196.45 (talk) 00:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Out-of-date URL
Reference #14 (http://live.newteevee.com/gameshow) re-directs to the GigaOm home page. It's supposed to link to an internet celebrity game-show in which he participated in. Vahnx (talk) 11:58, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Untitled
Very credible person and influential!


 * The comment above adds to the article's content "in a more honest, humane light" and "reasonable" to suggest vanity or at least need for NPOV cleanup. I added a NPOV tag in case the article survives VfD, as appears likely.  Barno 15:25, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * You've got to be kidding.. Scoble, credible?  The guy's a professional Microsoft shill.  (Like, really: that's his JOB.)  This article never should have been here in the first place.


 * A Microsoft shill? Uh, he maintained a link to FF until recently... he openly admits he wants an iPod (if he doesn't have one already).  He openly criticizes Microsoft often enough... what do you want?  You need to grow up!


 * Robert Scoble is well read enough to maintain at least a brief article. Also, the article should probably mention that he is an evangelist for the TabletPC line of equipment, and http://Channel9.msdn.com in general.


 * Scoble's evangelism of TabletPC predates his Microsoft employment - he worked at NEC prior to Microsoft, and I believe his Tablet usage started there. I don't believe his current job involves Tablet evangelism directly. ianbetteridge


 * You may want to mention that he started out as a Microsoft MVP, which is where I first met him. I remember when he went employee, and I vaguely recall that it was in part from the contacts he got as an MVP.


 * Scoble is a widely recognised phenomenon. He is influential for reasons associated with his position and with the attitude which he maintains in his writing. His influence upon the blogosphere is significant because he evangelises blogging from an uniquely visible position. For those that want to see if it is possible to transform organisations which they despise into ones that they respect (turning Microsoft into Apple?) Scoble may (if only in this admittedly very limited sense) be the world's most important blogger, even if his motives or quality of writing are deemed by those who hold this view to be otherwise entirely unremarkable.


 * That's my opinion but VfD showed a lot of comments otherwise. The anonymous talk-page comment above furthered my opinion but I doubt most voters have read it.  An NPOV tag seemed fairer to our collaborative process than, say, a speedy delete for "contrafactual bullshit".  Barno 14:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

i think he is credible guy.

1/30/11: "I think he is a credible guy" directly goes against NPOV. This article is full of vanity and shameless self promotion. THIS ARTICLE NEEDS TO BE CLEANED UP.