Talk:Robert Service (historian)/Archive 1

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One of the notable points that could be made about Robert Service is that he is far from lacking ideological fervour, nor is he widely regarded as dispassionate. This really shouldn't be here. Tdgtdg 21:47, 15 July 2007 (UTC) When he taught at SSEES, it was not a part of Univ. College, London but a separate constituent college of the federal University of London, in the same fashion as SOAS. Univ. took over/rescued/gutted* SSEES after his period of tenure there. This should be amended. Btw I never found his lectures to be partisan in the slightest but rich in their considered detail. He's very good at the recreation of a zeitgeist at a particular time rather than being a slave to system Jatrius 14:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Robert Service has also refused to debate at least Socialist Party members about his book and his views on Leon Trotsky. See full correspondence: Ritz135 (talk) 15:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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It is a lot easier to delete a link to a refutation of your ideas than it is to provide a link to your own response. If you just delete links to those who argue against you, readers could be forgiven for taking it as an admission that you cannot provide a response. Tonyj1online (talk) 19:12, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

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if you are going to describe Service's stance as "anti-communist" then you should provide supporting references. The reference to certain socialist's disagreeing with him does not make him an anti-communist. I think we can refer to his "stance" being criticized b some socialists without labeling him as an anti-communist. If such a description is to be sustained then it need supporting evidence. ie that some socialist doesn't agree with him is not support of a claim anti-communist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.84.2.95 (talk) 12:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)


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American Historical Review and "Trotsky"
A must read: The American Historical Review discredits Robert Service’s biography of Leon Trotsky on a review by Bertrand Patenaude of Stanford University.

The American Historical Review article, written by historian Bertrand Patenaude, a lecturer in history and international relations at Stanford University, and a fellow at the Hoover Institute, is available online. If you have access to this review and you can post it on the Article page, please do so. Otherwise, read this commentary on the review:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/jun2011/pers-j28.shtml

Ol&#39;Campy (talk) 18:07, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope. Patenaude had a COI as he was not just the reviewer, but the author of the very book competing with Service's, making his review highly suspect.  This was covered in depth by Inside Higher Ed.  Serously, this kind of COI has no place here.  I'm going to archive this entire talk page due to this obvious and continuing shenanigans.  It's one thing to criticize an Apple product, but quite another to be a paid Microsoft engineer or Samsung worker publishing the review. Viriditas (talk) 00:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

too many red links?
Why all the links to books, that never will get an article? --13Peewit (talk) 11:00, 18 July 2012 (UTC)