Talk:Robert le diable/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk · contribs) 14:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


 * I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 14:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Initial comments
I've had a quick read of the article and I consider that it is at or about GA-level. It seems to be well referenced and comprehensive. On the basis of this, I'm now going to do a more detailed review, section by section, but leaving the WP:Lead until last. The review will be against the requirements of WP:WIAGA. Pyrotec (talk) 20:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Background -
 * Compliant.
 * In places, I consider the prose a bit "dense", so I split one sentence into two; and in another changed "incident" to "incidents".
 * This sentence could do with a clean up:- "Giacomo Meyerbeer's early studies had been in Germany, but from 1816 to 1825 he worked in Italy, studying Italian opera, then dominated by Gioachino Rossini, and writing his own Italian operas, which were moderately successful and also had some performances in other European countries.". There are too many 'and's.
 * By what principle of grammar are two 'and's in a sentence (correctly and appropriately used) 'too many'? Read correctly, the sentence is clear and neither confusing nor difficult, although some whose main reading experience is on computer screens and who are not used to reading texts of substance might find it slightly more challenging than they are used to. It shouldn't be a role of Wikipedia to 'dumb down' language for those of limited reading ability.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.145.86 (talk) 02:13, 21 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Performance history -
 * Premiere seasons in Paris -
 * Compliant.

...Stopping for now. To be continued. Pyrotec (talk) 21:21, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Early performances outside Paris, Twentieth century & Twenty-first century -
 * Compliant.


 * Roles, Synopsis & Costume designs for the first production -
 * Compliant.
 * One minor point, Act 2 mentions the "Prince". Well OK, but the Roles section names him as the Prince of Granada and the latter name is used in Act 4.


 * Reception -
 * Compliant.


 * Influence & Recordings -
 * Compliant.


 * WP:Lead -
 * Acceptable, i.e. compliant with WP:Lead, but perhaps a bit "thin".

Pyrotec (talk) 13:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Overall summary
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria An interesting and eminently readable article on this opera.
 * 1) Is it reasonably well written?
 * A. Prose quality:
 * B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:
 * 1) Is it factually accurate and verifiable?
 * A. References to sources:
 * Well referenced.
 * B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:
 * Well referenced.
 * C. No original research:
 * 1) Is it broad in its coverage?
 * A. Major aspects:
 * B. Focused:
 * 1) Is it neutral?
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) Is it stable?
 * No edit wars, etc:
 * 1) Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * Very well illustrated.
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * Very well illustrated.
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * I'm awarding this article GA. I suspect that with bit of work this article could progress though WP:FAC. A little bit of work on the prose, for example in the Background section and a "fatting up" of the Lead would be probably needed. That however is only a personal opinion.
 * A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:
 * Very well illustrated.
 * B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:
 * Very well illustrated.
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass or Fail:
 * I'm awarding this article GA. I suspect that with bit of work this article could progress though WP:FAC. A little bit of work on the prose, for example in the Background section and a "fatting up" of the Lead would be probably needed. That however is only a personal opinion.

I'm delighted to be able to award this article GA-status. Pyrotec (talk) 13:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)