Talk:Rock-climbing equipment/Archive 1

Snow and Ice
"Mountaineering equipment" redirects to this article. The name of this article is not "rock climbing equipment". Shouldn't items like ice axes and crampons be included in this article? Jim Heaphy (talk) 15:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Alternatively, the article could be renamed "Rock climbing equipment". Jim Heaphy (talk) 02:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you have a good point. Mountaineering equipment is notably different than rock climbing equipment  and ice climbing equipment.  Discussing all of this stuff in one place would just be confusing and would be smart to keep oxygen tanks separate from quick draws.--OMCV (talk) 03:11, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Start of article
A very good start. I'm not a rock climber (I'm sure if I had been closer to some climbing areas when I was younger then I probably would be) so I'm not sure I can add a whole lot to the existing equipment list although I might be able to add a sentence or two for Ascender (jumar) as I have used one a couple of times (in Nepal only). I took an intro glacier travel course this past August and I asked one of my instructors about using a jumar to get out of a crevasse. He said that would be an excellent option but most Canadian climbers generally do not carry one due to the weight and very infrequent need of one. They indicated that jumars seemed to be more commonly used by USA climbers. I think probably almost every climber uses a jumar when they go up the Lhotse face though! RedWolf 21:27, Dec 19, 2003 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that I have photos for many of the items discussed in the article. My PC doesn't, currently, have a working USB port (don't ask) so transfering them from the camera might take some time :-( Having said that, there are a few items that I don't own, including a Gri-gri, stitch plate, any active camming devices... Stewart Adcock 00:44, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Nice article! I've been climbing for awhile, so I should be able to clarify things and add a few pictures. I think jumars are a bit heavy to carry just in case. Although I don't have much glacier experience, I think you'd carry something like that if you really intended to use it, otherwise just use a prussik or something similar like a tiblock. Sanbeg

Is extra reliance on chalk really called "CCS" or is this just someone's pitch to popularize a word? try googling it: 5 results, including this one. 64.121.193.129 04:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to agree. I've never heard the term either.  I searched rc.com's forum, but all I came up with were pluralities of the abbreviation for "carbon copy" or the name of a company called SEI-CCS Inc. (I have no idea what they do or who they are). Rhorn 14:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Great to find these articles.Just came across them. Have done some climbing myself, although out of shape right now. Favourite climbing spot . Flat Rock Newfoundland were we climbed as the whales came up to "blow" below us .... wow! Will have a bit of time to copyedit.(olive 15:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Never heard of this either, and have never heard other climbers refer to this in this way.It may be a term created by a more localized group of climbers . To be Wikipedia compliant it should either be verified by a reliable source or removed.I think this is a nice well-developed section. Removing this won't affect the article in any real way.(olive 15:09, 3 December 2007 (UTC))
 * sorry about comment - this reference seems to have been removed. Note to self-read before commenting.(olive 15:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC))

Hexcentrics (aka Hex's) no longer look like the illustration. They now use dyneema or nylon slings instead of rope and the metal is thinner to reduce weight. I'll take some pictures of my climbing gear over the next few days and upload them. 80.2.20.28 (talk) 12:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

ninja climbing equipment
Hey, this might sound a bit silly, but doesn't the ninja climbing equipment (like the climbing claws or the foot spikes) belong somewhere around here ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.127.186.205 (talk) 13:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Interesting idea but I think the article specifically refers to rock climbing.Is there an article on Ninja? Probably info. on Ninja climbing gear would be best there.Maybe you could write such an article .(olive 15:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC))

Gibbs
Maelgwn - the Silent Partner links to Self-locking device, so why not the Gibbs, which generically also features there? Martinevans123 (talk) 02:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Less is more in this case. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Rappel Racks
Racks are used a lot by cavers but not by climbers. Racks are devices for single rope rappels, not for rappelling on doubled ropes as done by climbers. The description is poor. Maybe this should be removed.Senor Cuete (talk) 14:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)Senor Cuete


 * I'd say the description was maybe too short rather than poor. But how would you improve it? There is obviously some degree of overlap between climbing and caving, but there is currently no separate caving equipment article. I'd delete this only if you think it's adequately covered in caving. 20.133.0.13 (talk) 14:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm trying to get a new page started on ETRIER. Sorry if this is the wrong place to try !! Graeme P Scott (talk) 13:20, 14 February 2009 (UTC) Graeme Scott

Possible non-attribution case
Someone appears to be appropriating wikipedia without attributing or posting the creative commons license: http://climbing.siegmann.org/building-a-rock-climbing-wall/?pg=0. I know they can use it and copy and paste it all they want, but they're not following the rules of the license. Should I contact the site owner?

(oops, forgot sig)Niceoboe (talk) 22:57, 22 November 2009 (UTC)


 * The link you've added seem to link to adverts, and the "Building a Rock Climbing Wall" link on the site links to adverts as well. Is there another link?. This doesn't give us any information. Thanks.(olive (talk) 00:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC))
 * Don't sweat it. There are many examples of this on the web.  Its not worth contacting the site or anything.--OMCV (talk) 01:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Danger of figure eight belay device snapping during use
I've removed this unsourced comment from the article:

"You cannot drop figure eight as it can cause hairline fractures in the aluminium and can snap easily and unexpectedly during use."

I've never heard of this, and a quick check of John Long, Petzl, and a few other online articles doesn't bring up any information on this idea. If this was true for Figure Eights it would be true for any aluminum ATC or other climbing gear. As well all Figure Eights are not aluminum. However, if anyone has information on this it would be worth noting in the article. Doesn't seem logical to me, and isn't supported by the sources, so far. (olive (talk) 15:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC))

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